From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:46:34 +0100 Message-ID: <20180130074634.GB7561@thebird.nl> References: <87r2qj1d6o.fsf@elephly.net> <87a7x31gm6.fsf@gnu.org> <86372sdxz0.fsf@gmail.com> <87h8r71dp9.fsf@gnu.org> <867es3cgeq.fsf@gmail.com> <87bmhet0hc.fsf@elephly.net> <86zi4xb8tk.fsf@gmail.com> <20180129073718.GA32294@thebird.nl> <87po5ss3xa.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egQgH-0001sB-1t for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:50:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egQgE-0008IM-0H for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:50:13 -0500 Received: from mail.thebird.nl ([95.154.246.10]:34724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egQgD-00088H-QH for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:50:09 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87po5ss3xa.fsf@elephly.net> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: "myglc2@gmail.com" , "guix-devel@gnu.org" , sirgazil On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:20:17PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > However, I think that this is tangential to the question of whether to > move the GuixSD description and intro to a separate page. If we added > those sections they=E2=80=99d be only about Guix, not about GuixSD, no? I am convinced that Guix packages are way more important than GuixSD when it comes to numbers and pleasure. At least in the medium term. Take a cue from Nix and NixOS. Guix users can be millions in the coming 5-10 years. GuixSD users will be in the tens of thousands. I am not saying GuixSD is not important. For one, GuixSD feeds into Guix. More importantly it is the libre Linux OS of choice and soon Hurd. So it deserves its place and is massively important. But when it comes to the *message* and target audience and numbers, I think we should target millions on the main GNU Guix website and have a separate place for GuixSD. The latter truely has to grow by merit and will be picked up by people looking for libre. No one is going to install GuixSD by 'chance' even though it is the coolest thing! We should make Guix the experience with the lowest threshold, the lowest barrier to entry and the website should take the audiences by the hand. That is, if we want to get as many people on board as we can. The fewer steps, the fewer complications, the more likely it is going to be a true hit. At this point, I consider it our main challenge. Guix should be easier than Debian packages, Conda and Easybuild. GNU Guix is very close to becomig a winner for libre software. We all need it. But people need to understand what they are missing out on. Pj.