From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ng0 Subject: Re: Thunderbird Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:59:50 +0000 Message-ID: <20170911135950.j5btpo2oh45pk3ip@abyayala> References: <20170718171336.nwr4vk6uxlxmj4iv@abyayala> <87inich4k3.fsf@openmailbox.org> <20170728173117.dresjucctkml6e7j@abyayala> <874lsfefn3.fsf@openmailbox.org> <20170911103103.usfwh4xakibjw7bt@abyayala> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6zrgp4ngolfnmbgl" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drPGA-0000kB-Ra for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:00:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drPG6-0003g3-Ju for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:00:22 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:57170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1drPG6-0003eH-CD for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:00:18 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Catonano Cc: guix-devel --6zrgp4ngolfnmbgl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Catonano transcribed 6.1K bytes: > 2017-09-11 12:31 GMT+02:00 ng0 : >=20 > > Arun Isaac transcribed 0.4K bytes: > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone would work on Astroid mail > > > > https://astroidmail.github.io/ > > > > > > > > It seems simpler to package than Thunderbird and it could be extrem= ely > > > > useful in the short/medium term > > > > > > Astroid requires external programs like mpop or offlineimap to fetch > > > mail. So it cannot quite replace Thunderbird for the casual mail > > > user. Perhaps, claws-mail or blasa are better alternatives. Both > > > claws-mail and balsa are already packaged for Guix. > > > > My only usecase for Thunderbird is Enigmail and its coming GNUnet > > integration > > done in corporation of pEp (and GNUnet) and the Enigmail team. > > >=20 > ok >=20 >=20 > > Personal opinion: Thunderbird is really terrible and I have my reasons > > why I stopped using it so long ago I stopped counting or caring for its > > existence (must've been around '99 or '00 maybe...). > > >=20 > right >=20 >=20 > > Nevertheless it is a mandatory tool for some people who can't switch > > easily and I doubt anyone will embrace the task of getting Thunderbird > > into Guix with joy. > > >=20 > right >=20 > So far I'm hitting the first dr=C3=B6mpels (road bumpers) in the build pr= ocess > > with a reference within Thunderbird. > > > > Wrt the earlier emails: yes, my intention (also for Icecat/Firefox) is = to > > provide Addons via Guix to get rid of yet another point of authority > > (Mozilla Appstore). It is my understanding that at least a while back > > someone was already looking into this and at least the idea was accepted > > and welcomed. > > >=20 > it s an exciting view of the future, yes. >=20 >=20 > > Alternatives exist, yep. But for me it's no only this or only that > > application question. It's about dynamic choice. > > >=20 > Of course you have your motivation >=20 > My fear is that you are somewhat underestimating the effort that such an > endeavour entails. 3 years into this project (not TB ;)) and some years longer into another on= e I've got my reality check once or twice, so I know how long volunteering work on certain construction sites can take (and about the times when it just wears you out). I also know that if I won't finish it, there's enough people (at least 1 person I know of) interested that we will get it finished event= ually at some point. For me it's not about the effort it takes but the time one has to spend debugging issues. And of course, as a volunteering task how much fun / motivation you see in it. Don't do anything you don't want to do. For now I want to do Thunderbird because I like challenges. Sometimes it looks like you make no progress at all for weeks or months, and suddenly it works. That's all it is in packages, solving puzzles. Of course I have to plan work now since university started. I'll move the thunerbird package around on the weekend, so that it's more visible for those who want to work on it - it's still in an old repository intended for a structure I no longer see worth following. > I might be wrong, of course. > Anyway, I was just requesting an effort on Androidmail. > It might be you, Arun or anyone else ;-) >=20 > My case for Androidmail is that it could be one of the steps (for me) in > the process of abandoning Gmail. >=20 > Again: I might be wrong ! >=20 > Thanks for engaging ;-) --=20 ng0 GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 GnuPG: https://krosos.org/dist/keys/ https://www.infotropique.org https://www.krosos.org --6zrgp4ngolfnmbgl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEqIyK3RKYKNfqwC5S4i+bv+40hYgFAlm2ltYACgkQ4i+bv+40 hYgt1BAAoloQAVsKTRq4zxiIXM348UNBQF3kxZFQc5jW+H3Bs2ue9GvO29ZENhdV 7DngkVKoTW0qu18l4bOuYNs1vRQjlEGZ4qnHymC+FYvomYs4h238Wsx5ebmJD2D6 4umykY2necRvpn4gpedciRHUjiVU+qB6x+Xv310bM2hJQqEYptpztpZwKtjJm0N+ fc0NiGRXvtm1rbh3JZV8KH+efsVds40ddWcmGxu8WMklRF6rb6y5Ih6jMQNglB0X jVbGeC3IZp7cMI/sSSAAJXKwHFdoOc3AJ706grWmj99glqpz8isG1rlJT3Np/o+3 btWUY32hjC1VUUPCYXFqNQ7PxJG5DKZWet9NLJtnqLBH5W/9WP8ryOaTzkXcoiQi aGELq8S38jlbvtwQC6cUYdjy4yl0TK1Wwj3Z3SO2wUdOV2kroYHfeOYPrKpMhdw1 Kxqk804e3zx+AoMa1X10XRCLDlCKPXJdDiLigGqvvWMS6FDDNkZjBTLNnUFSF1jp WUAeELeT/MlncJC1Gi6DFPG5J8dy8889Csi3LOj9y5rfGlxnsi+Lnip18rQvuqbf kdOag37bq4MRK8/fGXrHfU2jZXKBC9rSyn7km1Ewj8ERH0GWA4RdSmCovNLyIka0 ckwTngAd/dRwxAuBtgjWJY4nbTvcecW5lngVkBP/chzcv4MID5M= =bzrj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6zrgp4ngolfnmbgl--