From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ng0 Subject: Re: Using IPFS to host mirrors of source packages Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:17:54 +0000 Message-ID: <20170822091754.r6kpma2qgcnqxgmd@abyayala> References: <20170811151019.GB20919@thebird.nl> <87a82sdngs.fsf@gnu.org> <20170822083832.2d2cm2wctva2rjzh@abyayala> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="laaczx4d2gbv6wqm" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54941) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dk5KR-0003L5-6d for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 05:18:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dk5KQ-00024u-0D for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 05:18:31 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170822083832.2d2cm2wctva2rjzh@abyayala> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Pjotr Prins , guix-devel --laaczx4d2gbv6wqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ng0 transcribed 2.6K bytes: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s transcribed 0.6K bytes: > > Hello, > >=20 > > Pjotr Prins skribis: > >=20 > > > By hosting source packages on IPFS they become content addressable and > > > should scale for downloads. It would also become a safe way of > > > distributing data.=20 > > > > > > https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs >=20 > I hope that you are aware that this isn't that safe. > As an intermediate solution it is okay. It is similar to providing > torrents. It works, but everyone wants the easy way, the > easy solution which works $now. Eh, let me revise that. It is safe, but IPFS solves different problems than GNUnet. They are doing good work nevertheless. I just think that putting work into something entirely different is pointless, from where I stand. If everyone who complained about certain things would work on them just a bit, we'd move faster. But hey, that's life. Just a check on wether we'll have IPFS and GNUnet some day or if I should just consider working on it completely on my own now as you consider GNUnet doomed (or something). > Maybe we have different goals, which would be okay aswell, > you can have different goals but still work on a common base > as teams. >=20 > On an update semi-related to this thread: > I don't have any illusions, gnunet-fs integration will take some > time going from the theory lynX, Grothoff and mainly myself thought of, > talked through and wrote down to having it in place. It will require > some additions to gnunet-fs which need to be discussed, etc. >=20 > > I would love such a thing to happen (that=E2=80=99s also why we had a G= SoC on > > using GNUnet=E2=80=99s file sharing capabilities a while back.) > >=20 > > The simplest thing to get started, as you wrote, would be to have an > > HTTPS gateway to IPFS (which =E2=80=98guix substitute=E2=80=99 could re= adily talk to > > without any modification), though one would still need to populate IPFS > > in the first place. > >=20 > > Ludo=E2=80=99. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ng0 > GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 > GnuPG: https://n0is.noblogs.org/my-keys > https://www.infotropique.org https://krosos.org --=20 ng0 GnuPG: A88C8ADD129828D7EAC02E52E22F9BBFEE348588 GnuPG: https://n0is.noblogs.org/my-keys https://www.infotropique.org https://krosos.org --laaczx4d2gbv6wqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEqIyK3RKYKNfqwC5S4i+bv+40hYgFAlmb9sIACgkQ4i+bv+40 hYiKzw/+KgvhNOARZJnAO19bEIDKAZyLPVhgjf2z64wEDKSkrZuPRsYZDxwmqWrB IXFqnsF4Y2PaCbU65UnEnTlRa3ajAkSXT5dtgKXW/6q1eTRroueF50fqZOQkKRXK SeCsmDxMJeK25QV8Q6UcDPaaptewfhn8UySQerXENQgCaj3ny81TiwW6lkZxRZzk 6TpQ931je8OgOWDDfUWWf7lW//yK5I0NO/ezCzmgtJAl/pDC7p17RMMGuPencFgS fPlv6byzfeHtC2WgMCpKoVJUtw2rdsv2lpM5hBSOqv3ANU/DN2UwLzk7k8tUJTez TS4R9WKdvOyg6UBc3hkrGwfCX6yf7IF7a0SvxXX+GdfDl5e3TolnZfOvsczG5G0/ ptOk7Qrx22RHWbTXohkvSx/8uakM4ROszhGnuoW1P0oIGOSLhwcuic1jYaTIJrf6 WthV8JTnTK6ooGrUUVTR4/q0KwiXYG+TY9UAS2lLA1xLQI4KiwHkMnAho9IIx5JP r47yuapaO2+BOLVhu69dnGJA4AJ8dN0XqydAIsTJOVZ8jS2TAq68paLm79v9bgaa Rd+lfWoxoxMO+gzJP08MPg4CPSso7m2x5JNgHdWDg29yApnV1T6JBiTHHqnGAKlH pPrgk7HOezGmraZSuwXGDrX6KYB1fWU88k5etTxGxvip7klBB7Y= =vKQJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --laaczx4d2gbv6wqm--