From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Leo Famulari Subject: Guix infrastructure Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 23:00:42 -0400 Message-ID: <20170707030042.GD1280@jasmine.lan> References: <20170701173604.vjzta4fccjfuqxoy@abyayala> <20170701180111.GA29205@jasmine.lan> <86d19dxg42.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53340) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTJVg-0004sn-LL for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 23:00:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTJVd-0001yX-Jo for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 23:00:48 -0400 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:60021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTJVd-0001xu-CL for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 23:00:45 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86d19dxg42.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: myglc2 Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 08:09:17PM -0400, myglc2 wrote: > On 07/01/2017 at 14:01 Leo Famulari writes: > > ... Bayfront is still not fully operational, so hydra.gnu.org is still > > serving as the front-end of the build farm. We are still relying on the > > Hydra software. That is, the situation is basically the same as before. > > Adding build machines will not help very much until the front-end > > hardware gets faster. >=20 > This leaves me wondering ... >=20 > Is the hydra/front-end hardware going to be upgraded? Yes... > Is bayfront/cuirass intended to replace hydra? =2E.. and yes. > The bayfront hardware described here ... >=20 > https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/news/growing-our-build-farm.html >=20 > ... seems weak to me. Is there a plan to scale it up and make it redundan= t? It will be a lot more powerful than the current Hydra system. As for specific plans, I'll let those administering the system chime in. > A reliable, resourced, managed, "nightly Guix build" should pay big > dividends for the project. But, from reading the lists, I get the > impression that such a thing does not exist. Is that correct? Currently, we tend to build all the packages as often as we can with our resources, which is less than once a day. > Do we know what would be needed to achieve a complete nightly build? It depends on what you mean by "complete". I doubt we can find armhf hardware that could build all the packages daily. That platform doesn't get very powerful in general and, in my experience, the machines that do exist can't handle sustained high loads, nor do they have fast network and I/O interfaces. It is possible for x86_64, i686, and eventually for aarch64. Maybe we will be able to cross-build from aarch64 to arhmf; I'm not sure. Efraim? Ricardo has been working on getting some new x86_64 / i686 builders online: https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix/2017-06-30#T1433202 --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEsFFZSPHn08G5gDigJkb6MLrKfwgFAlle+VoACgkQJkb6MLrK fwjzWQ//XIMrKgMGIPbDmVnaZpAkOrfKv/9Rm4VcjEzDb0xKaAVQVSlaPlqkGGet EwGeV/qDY2EXvVbgyrth6KUyr1S16q9o4W/Wp2VrmIuuyC86CrI/FuvYBlJy6Bcz rq9lUuu9kPYWLhpJwElTDNUPtUch6XDzGis/E86so3v9fduB5vJIZrlm9yWwndyN TjjFIhwizl3okigWk8RDMnhP232Oec5SynRd3VMBjx+oHtWWm2jeHsLdx3inxOlT vl49/hYpaB2njOx+/rbafRhHBBwGZ2d9Fq/M34tQcyvbB3pWmq+mJURrRTamb+EB c8JTiOW9KDn4p85ABH9XZm6BU8NTPXAhb/epYwRl55UG/3LETaRxiivSUS1wC6Y5 nkPFg166FdTXLMttDP2s4yM0z/v2Dx67/i5dYlWPh3Wz/twG2tpGy2dCzmKbWMu7 r8zU1W2x4rJNCcxooBANMOK8WNdoospcNJPI3sNYCZZDsQaiE7u3SZO0NNMPIJkt yjr8/uzSQKcAFgDIQf+0Nxv8IwXX69jh4kolpKSY22uzvIBwmN2oKEQsKjkTRVex r2svk/9WtQVserHn8zCKYC7XqrcaqMMp/3S48HldBraWyjPwfwRXbOcdc1xV9epz Rim0QPsw+tFiV5AUIZat9JW6W49/5yqnEu70PhrpI93IjDZ29sY= =DDW6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TybLhxa8M7aNoW+V--