From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: Creating a reliable bootstrap for building from source Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 09:47:11 +0200 Message-ID: <20170517074711.GA15395@thebird.nl> References: <87y3u5wwsi.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20170514135041.GA29369@thebird.nl> <20170514153506.GA29953@thebird.nl> <20170514161342.GA30265@thebird.nl> <87efvr769a.fsf@gnu.org> <20170514172927.GA31005@thebird.nl> <20170514183014.GA31243@thebird.nl> <87shk7qg4p.fsf@gnu.org> <20170515073506.GA1125@thebird.nl> <87r2zqi6zp.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAtgE-0002wI-Rb for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:47:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dAtgA-00040T-U6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 May 2017 03:47:34 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r2zqi6zp.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic Court??s Cc: guix-devel On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 03:28:58PM +0200, Ludovic Court??s wrote: > >> For Guix developers, I think it's reasonable to have a traditional GNU > >> build system. After all, Guix is also a regular software package that > >> people can build from source with './configure && make && make install'. > > > > My point is that we can simplify. I like simple. Simple is good. > > > > We can have both the configure and a simple Makefile.guix option. That > > is what I do with my projects. > > > > We do not need bootstrap, autoconf and configure on a running Guix > > system. We do need it for other distributions. > > I agree. build-aux/build-self.scm, which is what ???guix pull??? runs to > build Guix, is close to what you???re suggesting, IIUC: a pure-Guile build > script. WDYT? It is interesting - especially the hoops jumping around guile versioning ;) - but it still looks like it invokes the traditional gnu-build-system. I think we can do without that too. Pj. --