* Re: midnight commander package fixes, opinions wanted
2017-03-01 17:01 ` ng0
@ 2017-03-06 9:55 ` Efraim Flashner
2017-03-06 11:14 ` ng0
2017-03-06 11:09 ` ng0
2017-03-06 11:09 ` bug#25273: " ng0
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Efraim Flashner @ 2017-03-06 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
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On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 05:01:23PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> On 17-03-01 16:58:41, ng0 wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I already fixed some of the open issues with our package of 'mc'.
> >
> > I think people will expect features to just work and not being broken
> > (as they are right now).
> > My personal opinion ignored, how do you want to proceed? The vim way
> > where we have $package (basic, as small as it gets) and $package-full
> > (with all the features you can have enabled)?
> >
> > I'd like to hear your opionion so that I can proceed fixing mc with
> > what we agreed on.
> >
>
> And also your opinion, I don't know what an opionion is but it sounds
> like opium combined with onion and I don't want that.
>
I've been sitting on a patch for ranger for a while. I also couldn't
decide between packaging just ranger or also linking in the various
programs it calls.
I think that if mc would use libcaca to display an image, and just
installing libcaca in profile would satisfy that dependancy, then
leaving it out is "not great, but acceptable".
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* Re: midnight commander package fixes, opinions wanted
2017-03-06 9:55 ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2017-03-06 11:14 ` ng0
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-03-06 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner; +Cc: guix-devel
On 17-03-06 11:55:27, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 05:01:23PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> > On 17-03-01 16:58:41, ng0 wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I already fixed some of the open issues with our package of 'mc'.
> > >
> > > I think people will expect features to just work and not being broken
> > > (as they are right now).
> > > My personal opinion ignored, how do you want to proceed? The vim way
> > > where we have $package (basic, as small as it gets) and $package-full
> > > (with all the features you can have enabled)?
> > >
> > > I'd like to hear your opionion so that I can proceed fixing mc with
> > > what we agreed on.
> > >
> >
> > And also your opinion, I don't know what an opionion is but it sounds
> > like opium combined with onion and I don't want that.
> >
>
> I've been sitting on a patch for ranger for a while. I also couldn't
> decide between packaging just ranger or also linking in the various
> programs it calls.
>
> I think that if mc would use libcaca to display an image, and just
> installing libcaca in profile would satisfy that dependancy, then
> leaving it out is "not great, but acceptable".
>
> --
> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> אפרים פלשנר
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It's not that easy. The references to applications are absolute
using '/usr/{bin,sbin}' and similar ones.
Maybe it's possible to just use the application name, but that depends
on the context in the code, etc.
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* Re: midnight commander package fixes, opinions wanted
2017-03-01 17:01 ` ng0
2017-03-06 9:55 ` Efraim Flashner
@ 2017-03-06 11:09 ` ng0
2017-03-06 11:09 ` bug#25273: " ng0
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-03-06 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel; +Cc: 25273
On 17-03-01 17:01:23, ng0 wrote:
> On 17-03-01 16:58:41, ng0 wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I already fixed some of the open issues with our package of 'mc'.
> >
> > I think people will expect features to just work and not being broken
> > (as they are right now).
> > My personal opinion ignored, how do you want to proceed? The vim way
> > where we have $package (basic, as small as it gets) and $package-full
> > (with all the features you can have enabled)?
> >
> > I'd like to hear your opionion so that I can proceed fixing mc with
> > what we agreed on.
> >
>
> And also your opinion, I don't know what an opionion is but it sounds
> like opium combined with onion and I don't want that.
>
For the lack of reaction for a long time, due to whatever reasons, I
will simply propose that we go the way of vim and vim-full.
'mc-full' will have many more dependencies than our current 'mc' and
should in the end be fully functional, while 'mc' will still complain
about missing features. The description of mc-full shall reflect that
you get full functionality with this application variant.
Anyone who wants this, feel free to pick it up and fix the related bug.
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* bug#25273: midnight commander package fixes, opinions wanted
2017-03-01 17:01 ` ng0
2017-03-06 9:55 ` Efraim Flashner
2017-03-06 11:09 ` ng0
@ 2017-03-06 11:09 ` ng0
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-03-06 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel; +Cc: 25273
On 17-03-01 17:01:23, ng0 wrote:
> On 17-03-01 16:58:41, ng0 wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I already fixed some of the open issues with our package of 'mc'.
> >
> > I think people will expect features to just work and not being broken
> > (as they are right now).
> > My personal opinion ignored, how do you want to proceed? The vim way
> > where we have $package (basic, as small as it gets) and $package-full
> > (with all the features you can have enabled)?
> >
> > I'd like to hear your opionion so that I can proceed fixing mc with
> > what we agreed on.
> >
>
> And also your opinion, I don't know what an opionion is but it sounds
> like opium combined with onion and I don't want that.
>
For the lack of reaction for a long time, due to whatever reasons, I
will simply propose that we go the way of vim and vim-full.
'mc-full' will have many more dependencies than our current 'mc' and
should in the end be fully functional, while 'mc' will still complain
about missing features. The description of mc-full shall reflect that
you get full functionality with this application variant.
Anyone who wants this, feel free to pick it up and fix the related bug.
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