From: ng0 <contact.ng0@cryptolab.net>
To: Hartmut Goebel <h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:31:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170212123147.odpfawkb6gosh2bx@wasp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96fa2c02-f5da-d4f5-6074-04b29f5376fb@crazy-compilers.com>
On 17-02-12 13:23:09, Hartmut Goebel wrote:
> Am 09.02.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> > I think the only reason to separate things usually is size, not
> > “aesthetics.” So I’d be in favor of keeping both in the same output if
> > there’s no size problem.
>
> Separating clients and servers is not an "aesthetic" thing. It's a
> matter of security.
>
> One basic rule for hardening systems is: "only install the required
> software". If we munge server and clients packages, this obeys this rule.
>
> In my day-business I'm a security consultant (CISSP, CSSLP and ISO
> 27001 Lead Implementer). And from my point of view Guix already has a
> medium problem of acceptance since it munges development-files and
> run-time files into one package - as we do for all libraries. This
> already contradicts the above mentioned basic rule.
>
> Now if Guix starts munging server and client components into one
> package, this plain disqualifies GuixSD from any security sensitive
> system. [*]
>
> [*] OTOH it opens up chances for big business: selling "Secure GuixSD"
> to customers.
>
> --
> Regards
> Hartmut Goebel
>
> | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com |
> | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |
>
>
Exactly why I think we should do this, with a more detailed reasoning.
Thanks!
--
ng0 -- https://www.inventati.org/patternsinthechaos/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-12 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-01 20:43 Add murmur contact.ng0
2017-02-01 20:43 ` [PATCH] gnu: mumble: Add 'murmur' output contact.ng0
2017-02-01 21:15 ` Add murmur ng0
2017-02-09 16:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-09 18:20 ` ng0
2017-02-09 22:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-10 21:39 ` ng0
2017-02-10 21:54 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-10 22:15 ` ng0
2017-02-11 14:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-11 14:39 ` ng0
2017-02-12 13:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-12 13:53 ` ng0
2017-02-12 13:57 ` David Craven
2017-02-12 14:02 ` ng0
2017-02-12 14:37 ` David Craven
2017-02-12 17:01 ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-12 17:42 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2017-02-13 14:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-12 17:54 ` David Craven
2017-02-14 10:13 ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-14 9:00 ` ng0
2017-02-12 12:23 ` server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur) Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-12 12:31 ` ng0 [this message]
2017-02-12 12:53 ` David Craven
2017-02-12 16:52 ` server and client in one package -> security issue Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-13 14:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-14 10:28 ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-14 11:19 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-14 9:16 ` server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur) Danny Milosavljevic
2017-02-14 9:51 ` ng0
2017-02-14 10:44 ` server and client in one package -> security issue Hartmut Goebel
2017-04-24 7:01 ` Maxim Cournoyer
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