From: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `guix pull` over HTTPS
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:25:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170211192538.GA9077@jasmine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871sv44x97.fsf@gnu.org>
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 03:28:52PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com> skribis:
> > I think pinning the public key could work, if the Savannah
> > administrators are aware of it. But we'd need a reliable fallback
> > mechanism in case the private key needs to be updated.
>
> Yeah, sounds fragile.
My attitude about improving the security of `guix pull` can be
summarized as "The perfect is enemy of the good".
Unless we control the server that provides the default `guix pull`
source, I don't think we should try pinning a key.
I don't want to take the risk that `guix pull` breaks permamently
because something gets messed up on Savannah. If `guix pull` breaks in a
way that requires users to to do `guix pull --url=foo`, then we will
have failed, in my opinion.
I'd rather try an incremental approach, for example:
1) Fetch code over HTTPS instead of HTTP
2) Think about hosting our own infrastructure and pinning a key (but
ideally we don't have to trust the Git repo infrastructure)
3) Verify Git commit signatures
4) Think about building a set of trusted PGP keys and verifying Git
commit signatures against this set
... or something like that.
> > I think having a separate 'le-certs' package that can verify the Lets
> > Encrypt chain sounds like the easiest option. Presumably new
> > intermediates etc will be known well in advance.
>
> That sounds more reasonable to me. Do you know what it would take to
> get the whole LE chain in such a package? Would you like to give it a
> try?
It's a good idea; let's try it.
However, I think that pulling code over HTTPS using a certificate store
like nss-certs or from the host distro is a huge improvement over what
we have now. If we can do that sooner, we should.
WDYT?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-11 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-09 15:55 `guix pull` over HTTPS Leo Famulari
2017-02-10 0:30 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-10 15:33 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-10 16:22 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-10 22:21 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-10 22:43 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-10 22:52 ` ng0
2017-02-11 14:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-11 19:25 ` Leo Famulari [this message]
2017-02-11 19:48 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-12 13:36 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-28 5:46 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-28 14:59 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-28 16:29 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-28 16:45 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-28 20:44 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-28 21:44 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-28 21:54 ` Marius Bakke
2017-03-01 2:36 ` Marius Bakke
2017-03-01 5:14 ` Leo Famulari
2017-03-01 21:20 ` [PATCH v3] pull: Default to HTTPS Marius Bakke
2017-03-01 22:07 ` Leo Famulari
2017-03-01 21:21 ` `guix pull` over HTTPS Marius Bakke
2017-03-06 10:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-06 10:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-06 12:27 ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-28 23:05 ` Marius Bakke
2017-03-01 0:19 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-28 16:39 ` [PATCH] pull: Use HTTPS by default Marius Bakke
2017-03-01 1:01 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-10 18:55 ` `guix pull` over HTTPS Christopher Allan Webber
2017-02-10 15:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-13 21:23 ` Bob Proulx
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