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From: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
To: myglc2 <myglc2@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Graphical Installer - Call for Testing.
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 09:05:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170107080544.GA15438@jocasta.intra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86vatrhatc.fsf@gmail.com>

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On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 09:18:39PM -0500, myglc2 wrote:

     >      1) Add a user configuration menu/form?
     >
     > That should be fairly straightforward.  But I wonder if it wouldn't be easier for
     > people to add them after the system is installed and run guix system
     > reconfigure ?
     
     I agree user management is downstream of the install. But in practice I
     need an "admin" user with sudo/su to manage a headless server. Otherwise
     I would have to allow login to root over ssh or use the console.
     
     So in practice all I do at the console is provide root and admin
     passwords.  If you made it easy to create a single admin user that would
     be very handy. The debian install does this.

Yeah and in debian one cannot avoid but add a user.  And to me this is annoying
since all my clients are LDAP managed so after I have installed a client, the
first thing I do is to delete the user which I was forced to create.

But I will add a page to add users before the "real thing" is released, but
it will be a strictly optional step.



     
     BTW, I see you followed the doc and set ...
     
     (lsh-service #:port-number 2222)
     
     ... for the Headless server.  I don't think this is desirable. The user
     will want to ssh into their nice new headless GuixSD server and this
     non-standard port is sure to shoot novice users in the foot.


Yes, I wonder what the rationale for this port number was?



     
     > Perhaps we could add a page which would allow users to add arbitrary packages
     > to the system profile.
     
     That would be very nice.  FWIW, I attach a recent system config to
     illustrate some packages that I would find useful.

I'll also add a  "Select additional packages for system profile" page, but 
again it'll  be an optional step.
     

     >      This time I tried to set up the HD from scratch. I successfully deleted
     >      old partitions and created new partitions. It was not clear how much I
     >      needed to know (e.g., do I need to mark a partition bootable?)
     >
     > Since I'm currently just execing cfdisk,  I don't have much control
     > over that.
     
     My point is that we probably need to provide very basic guidance as
     regards the minimum buttons a user need to push to get the system up.
     Maybe this could be in a sidebar on the relevant screens?

I will think about how that could perhaps be done.
     
     just couldn't figure out how to get back to the main thread and complete
     the install. Was I missing something?  Or this is a bug?

Probably both.  If you couldn't figure something out, then it's a bad user
interface.  I'll re-think that bit of it.

J'
     

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-07  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-04  7:59 Graphical Installer - Call for Testing John Darrington
2017-01-04 13:18 ` Thomas Danckaert
2017-01-04 18:44   ` John Darrington
2017-01-04 15:54 ` dian_cecht
2017-01-04 16:36   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-01-04 18:52   ` John Darrington
2017-01-06  3:23 ` Thompson, David
2017-01-07 16:02   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-01-06 20:53 ` myglc2
2017-01-06 21:50   ` John Darrington
2017-01-07  2:18     ` myglc2
2017-01-07  4:55       ` myglc2
2017-01-07 20:35         ` Alex Kost
2017-01-07  8:05       ` John Darrington [this message]
2017-01-08 18:47       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2017-01-08 19:28         ` John Darrington
2017-01-08 22:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-09 12:31   ` John Darrington
2017-01-10  8:39     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-10 11:57       ` John Darrington
2017-01-13  5:40 ` Chris Marusich
2017-01-13  6:35   ` John Darrington
2017-01-13  7:03     ` Chris Marusich
2017-01-14 13:24       ` David Craven
2017-01-22 14:41         ` John Darrington
2017-01-15  4:06     ` Chris Marusich
2017-01-15  6:55       ` John Darrington
2017-01-15  9:20         ` Chris Marusich
2017-01-15 11:56           ` John Darrington
2017-01-16  9:34             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-16 12:35               ` John Darrington
2017-01-16 17:18           ` John Darrington
2017-01-18  9:36             ` Chris Marusich
2017-07-05 17:27       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-07-07  4:48         ` Chris Marusich
2017-07-07  6:13           ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-07-07 11:37             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-12 11:30               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-07-12 17:31                 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2017-07-17 13:34                 ` Ludovic Courtès

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