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From: Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: NPM and trusted binaries
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:26:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160909092624.GA817@thebird.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871t0ta2bs.fsf@gnu.org>

On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 10:45:43AM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
 
> Yes, that’s a serious concern.  Maybe all we can reasonably hope to
> achieve is to provide a core subset of the free NPM packages in Guix
> proper, built from source.
> 
> People may still end up using automatically-generated, unchecked
> packages for the rest.  Nevertheless, that would be an improvement over
> the status quo.
> 
> (PyPI, Hackage, CPAN, and CRAN seem to be less problematic in this
> regard, maybe because they are “culturally closer” to the free software
> movement.)

Not quite true, though there are generally less dependencies to deal
with. I still install packages using those language systems -
especially with Ruby, R, D and Elixir. It does not matter. Once I want
robustness I make sure to package in Guix. npm is just the worst of
the lot because of the sheer size, stupidity and circular
dependencies.

We should really think a bit harder about the transitional phase.
Also, software development goes faster in general than that we can
package. 

My take is that GNU Guix proper should be lean, mean and robust. That
way we can maintain and rely on stuff. 

For the more experimental packages and other 'solutions' we ought to
depend on channels - or distributed package sources. These need not
take the purist view.

Pj.

      reply	other threads:[~2016-09-09  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-23  9:07 GSoC NPM Jelle Licht
2016-08-25 10:24 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-27 13:12   ` Jelle Licht
2016-09-06 23:21     ` Catonano
2016-08-27 21:43 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-09-06 20:00   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-09-02 14:24 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-02 15:27   ` Thompson, David
2016-09-02 16:23     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-02 15:33   ` Jelle Licht
2016-09-04 14:11     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-06 15:48       ` Thompson, David
2016-09-06 16:50         ` NPM and trusted binaries Pjotr Prins
2016-09-07 12:25           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-09-07 17:51             ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-08  7:01               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-09-08  8:29                 ` Jelle Licht
2016-09-08  2:45           ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-09-08  8:45             ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-08 17:31               ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-09-08 19:54                 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2016-09-09  0:31                   ` Mike Gerwitz
2016-09-09  8:45                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-09-09  9:26                       ` Pjotr Prins [this message]

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