* Re: service: make hidden-service an alias of onion service
@ 2016-04-02 13:03 shakmar
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: shakmar @ 2016-04-02 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ludo; +Cc: guix-devel
> At <https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/onion-services>, I see
> that “Tor developers use the terms "hidden services" and "onion
> services" interchangeably.” No evidence that there’s a incentive to
> use “onion services”, or did I miss it?
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.
Looking at the ‘hidden-services’ tag as well:
https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/hidden-services
led me to this blog post:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/hidden-service-hackfest-arlington-accords
which states:
| We talked about rebranding the "Hidden Services" project to "Onion
| Services" to reduce "hidden"/"dark"/"evil" name connotations, and
| improve terminology. In fact, [we've been on this for a while][1], but
| we are still not sure what the right name is. What do you think?
[1]: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2015-February/008256.html
I don’t know what the current consensus is though. I guess variables
with both names should be provided.
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* service: make hidden-service an alias of onion service @ 2016-03-31 18:39 Nils Gillmann 2016-03-31 21:29 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Nils Gillmann @ 2016-03-31 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guix-devel It seems that recently the torproject started using the more appropriate term "onion service"[1] for what is known as "hidden service". I want to reflect this in the service for tor by making onion-service the used definition/name and hidden-service an alias for that to not break a percentage of systems which might already be using this. I need to further read into services, but I want to handle this to learn more about services. As I can't CC email accounts via newsreader interface, would this proposed backwards compability be okay for you ludovic? efraim and alirio in the chat also pointed out that we possibly might want to mark hidden-service as deprecated if possible. -- ng personal contact: http://krosos.sdf.org EDN: https://wiki.c3d2.de/EDN ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: service: make hidden-service an alias of onion service 2016-03-31 18:39 Nils Gillmann @ 2016-03-31 21:29 ` Ludovic Courtès 2016-03-31 22:21 ` Nils Gillmann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-03-31 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nils Gillmann; +Cc: guix-devel Nils Gillmann <niasterisk@grrlz.net> skribis: > It seems that recently the torproject started using the more > appropriate term "onion service"[1] for what is known as "hidden > service". You’re missing the footnote. :-) Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: service: make hidden-service an alias of onion service 2016-03-31 21:29 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-03-31 22:21 ` Nils Gillmann 2016-04-01 8:47 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Nils Gillmann @ 2016-03-31 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guix-devel ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Nils Gillmann <niasterisk@grrlz.net> skribis: > >> It seems that recently the torproject started using the more >> appropriate term "onion service"[1] for what is known as "hidden >> service". > > You’re missing the footnote. :-) > > Ludo’. Right :D Well anyway, starting this anchor there should be more context and links: https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix/2016-03-31#T984352 -- ng personal contact: http://krosos.sdf.org EDN: https://wiki.c3d2.de/EDN ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: service: make hidden-service an alias of onion service 2016-03-31 22:21 ` Nils Gillmann @ 2016-04-01 8:47 ` Ludovic Courtès 2016-04-02 15:35 ` Nils Gillmann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-04-01 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nils Gillmann; +Cc: guix-devel Nils Gillmann <niasterisk@grrlz.net> skribis: > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > >> Nils Gillmann <niasterisk@grrlz.net> skribis: >> >>> It seems that recently the torproject started using the more >>> appropriate term "onion service"[1] for what is known as "hidden >>> service". >> >> You’re missing the footnote. :-) >> >> Ludo’. > > Right :D > > Well anyway, starting this anchor there should be more context > and links: > > https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix/2016-03-31#T984352 At <https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/onion-services>, I see that “Tor developers use the terms "hidden services" and "onion services" interchangeably.” No evidence that there’s a incentive to use “onion services”, or did I miss it? Thanks, Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: service: make hidden-service an alias of onion service 2016-04-01 8:47 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-04-02 15:35 ` Nils Gillmann 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Nils Gillmann @ 2016-04-02 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guix-devel shakmar@openmailbox.org writes: >> At <https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/onion-services>, I see >> that “Tor developers use the terms "hidden services" and "onion >> services" interchangeably.” No evidence that there’s a incentive to >> use “onion services”, or did I miss it? >> >> Thanks, >> Ludo’. > > Looking at the ‘hidden-services’ tag as well: > > https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/hidden-services > > led me to this blog post: > > https://blog.torproject.org/blog/hidden-service-hackfest-arlington-accords > > which states: > > | We talked about rebranding the "Hidden Services" project to "Onion > | Services" to reduce "hidden"/"dark"/"evil" name connotations, and > | improve terminology. In fact, [we've been on this for a while][1], but > | we are still not sure what the right name is. What do you think? > > [1]: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2015-February/008256.html > > I don’t know what the current consensus is though. I guess variables > with both names should be provided. I have another request question lined up for the tor-talk list, I will ask if there's an official consensus. If there's none I say we delay it until the point in time when it changes. sidenote: Hooray, gmane fails to filter some messages correctly. Maybe I just switch away from it again. -- ng personal contact: http://krosos.sdf.org EDN: https://wiki.c3d2.de/EDN ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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