* [PATCH 0/1] Show to use vm-image
@ 2016-01-15 10:12 Leo Famulari
2016-01-15 10:12 ` [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image' Leo Famulari
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From: Leo Famulari @ 2016-01-15 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
This patch on the manual explains how to use the output of
`guix system vm-image`.
Thoughts?
It seems wrong to repeat the command-line like that, but I don't know a
better way to explain the elements of the command. On the other hand,
the annotated version is hard to read as a command-line. Should it
change somehow, or is it fine?
I tried booting i686 on x86_64 and it didn't work, so I didn't mention
the possibility.
Leo Famulari (1):
doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image'.
doc/guix.texi | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
--
2.6.4
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* [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image'.
2016-01-15 10:12 [PATCH 0/1] Show to use vm-image Leo Famulari
@ 2016-01-15 10:12 ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-23 20:45 ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-24 17:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Leo Famulari @ 2016-01-15 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
* doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix system): Explain how to boot the QEMU
images created by vm-image.
---
doc/guix.texi | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
index e583e8c..51165b4 100644
--- a/doc/guix.texi
+++ b/doc/guix.texi
@@ -9058,9 +9058,6 @@ Return a virtual machine or disk image of the operating system declared
in @var{file} that stands alone. Use the @option{--image-size} option
to specify the size of the image.
-When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
-the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
-
When using @code{disk-image}, a raw disk image is produced; it can be
copied as is to a USB stick, for instance. Assuming @code{/dev/sdc} is
the device corresponding to a USB stick, one can copy the image on it
@@ -9070,6 +9067,44 @@ using the following command:
# dd if=$(guix system disk-image my-os.scm) of=/dev/sdc
@end example
+When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
+the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
+
+To run the image in QEMU, copy it out of the store and give yourself
+permission to write to the copy. When invoking QEMU, you must choose a
+system emulator that is suitable for your hardware platform. Here is a
+minimal QEMU invocation that will boot GuixSD on x86_64 hardware:
+
+@example
+$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
+-net user \
+-net nic,model=virtio \
+-enable-kvm \
+-m 256 \
+/tmp/qemu-image
+@end example
+
+And the annotated version:
+
+@example
+# Hardware platform to emulate. This should match the host.
+$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
+# Unpriviliged user mode networking. Guest can access host but not vice
+# versa. If you don't choose a network stack, the boot will fail.
+-net user \
+# You must create a network interface of a given model. If you don't
+# create a NIC, the boot will fail. You can get a list of available NIC
+# models by running `qemu-system-x86_64 -net nic,model=help`.
+-net nic,model=virtio \
+# If your system is x86 with hardware virtualization extensions,
+# enabling the kernel virtual machine will make things run faster.
+-enable-kvm \
+# RAM available to the guest OS. Defaults to 128 megabytes, which is not
+# enough for the Guix daemon.
+-m 256 \
+/tmp/qemu-image
+@end example
+
@item container
Return a script to run the operating system declared in @var{file}
within a container. Containers are a set of lightweight isolation
--
2.6.4
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image'.
2016-01-15 10:12 ` [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image' Leo Famulari
@ 2016-01-23 20:45 ` Leo Famulari
2016-01-24 17:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Leo Famulari @ 2016-01-23 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 05:12:24AM -0500, Leo Famulari wrote:
> * doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix system): Explain how to boot the QEMU
> images created by vm-image.
> ---
> doc/guix.texi | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Does anyone have feedback on this addition to the manual?
I'd like to have _something_ like it in the manual so that totally new
users can try GuixSD.
>
> diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
> index e583e8c..51165b4 100644
> --- a/doc/guix.texi
> +++ b/doc/guix.texi
> @@ -9058,9 +9058,6 @@ Return a virtual machine or disk image of the operating system declared
> in @var{file} that stands alone. Use the @option{--image-size} option
> to specify the size of the image.
>
> -When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
> -the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
> -
> When using @code{disk-image}, a raw disk image is produced; it can be
> copied as is to a USB stick, for instance. Assuming @code{/dev/sdc} is
> the device corresponding to a USB stick, one can copy the image on it
> @@ -9070,6 +9067,44 @@ using the following command:
> # dd if=$(guix system disk-image my-os.scm) of=/dev/sdc
> @end example
>
> +When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
> +the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
> +
> +To run the image in QEMU, copy it out of the store and give yourself
> +permission to write to the copy. When invoking QEMU, you must choose a
> +system emulator that is suitable for your hardware platform. Here is a
> +minimal QEMU invocation that will boot GuixSD on x86_64 hardware:
> +
> +@example
> +$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
> +-net user \
> +-net nic,model=virtio \
> +-enable-kvm \
> +-m 256 \
> +/tmp/qemu-image
> +@end example
> +
> +And the annotated version:
> +
> +@example
> +# Hardware platform to emulate. This should match the host.
> +$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
> +# Unpriviliged user mode networking. Guest can access host but not vice
> +# versa. If you don't choose a network stack, the boot will fail.
> +-net user \
> +# You must create a network interface of a given model. If you don't
> +# create a NIC, the boot will fail. You can get a list of available NIC
> +# models by running `qemu-system-x86_64 -net nic,model=help`.
> +-net nic,model=virtio \
> +# If your system is x86 with hardware virtualization extensions,
> +# enabling the kernel virtual machine will make things run faster.
> +-enable-kvm \
> +# RAM available to the guest OS. Defaults to 128 megabytes, which is not
> +# enough for the Guix daemon.
> +-m 256 \
> +/tmp/qemu-image
> +@end example
> +
> @item container
> Return a script to run the operating system declared in @var{file}
> within a container. Containers are a set of lightweight isolation
> --
> 2.6.4
>
>
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image'.
2016-01-15 10:12 ` [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image' Leo Famulari
2016-01-23 20:45 ` Leo Famulari
@ 2016-01-24 17:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-01-24 21:02 ` Leo Famulari
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-01-24 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo Famulari; +Cc: guix-devel
Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis:
> * doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix system): Explain how to boot the QEMU
> images created by vm-image.
Hey! Sorry for the looong delay! I think this is a useful addition.
> @@ -9058,9 +9058,6 @@ Return a virtual machine or disk image of the operating system declared
> in @var{file} that stands alone. Use the @option{--image-size} option
> to specify the size of the image.
>
> -When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
> -the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
I’m thinking there are often questions about using GuixSD in a VM etc.,
so it may well deserve one or two sections of its own.
What about leaving the above sentence here, and appending:
@xref{Running GuixSD in a VM}, for more information on how to run the
image in a virtual machine.
?
The rest of the material you added would then go to the new “Running
GuixSD in a VM” section, which could go maybe right after “Invoking guix
system”. WDYT?
> +When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
> +the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
In the new section, this would need to be slightly adjusted to give more
context, like:
One way to run GuixSD in a virtual machine is to build a GuixSD
virtual machine image using @command{guix system vm-image}
(@pxref{Invoking guix system}). The returned image is in qcow2
format, which the @uref{http://qemu.org/, QEMU emulator} can
efficiently use.
> +To run the image in QEMU, copy it out of the store and give yourself
> +permission to write to the copy. When invoking QEMU, you must choose a
> +system emulator that is suitable for your hardware platform. Here is a
> +minimal QEMU invocation that will boot GuixSD on x86_64 hardware:
> +
> +@example
> +$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
> +-net user \
> +-net nic,model=virtio \
> +-enable-kvm \
> +-m 256 \
> +/tmp/qemu-image
> +@end example
I think it would be nicer to put it on 3 lines.
> +And the annotated version:
> +
> +@example
> +# Hardware platform to emulate. This should match the host.
> +$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
> +# Unpriviliged user mode networking. Guest can access host but not vice
> +# versa. If you don't choose a network stack, the boot will fail.
> +-net user \
> +# You must create a network interface of a given model. If you don't
> +# create a NIC, the boot will fail. You can get a list of available NIC
> +# models by running `qemu-system-x86_64 -net nic,model=help`.
> +-net nic,model=virtio \
> +# If your system is x86 with hardware virtualization extensions,
> +# enabling the kernel virtual machine will make things run faster.
> +-enable-kvm \
> +# RAM available to the guest OS. Defaults to 128 megabytes, which is not
> +# enough for the Guix daemon.
> +-m 256 \
> +/tmp/qemu-image
> +@end example
I would typeset it as:
@table @code
@item qemu-system-x86_64
This specifies the hardware platform to…
@item -net user
Enable unpriviliged user-mode networking…
…
@end @table
With all this, it’s going to look perfect! :-)
Another question that people often ask is how to install GuixSD from the
installation image in a VM. Maybe that could be added eventually in a
subsection of this new node?
Thank you!
Ludo’.
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: Show how to boot result of 'vm-image'.
2016-01-24 17:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2016-01-24 21:02 ` Leo Famulari
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Leo Famulari @ 2016-01-24 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: guix-devel
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 06:32:57PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis:
>
> > * doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix system): Explain how to boot the QEMU
> > images created by vm-image.
>
[...]
> I’m thinking there are often questions about using GuixSD in a VM etc.,
> so it may well deserve one or two sections of its own.
>
> What about leaving the above sentence here, and appending:
>
> @xref{Running GuixSD in a VM}, for more information on how to run the
> image in a virtual machine.
>
> ?
>
> The rest of the material you added would then go to the new “Running
> GuixSD in a VM” section, which could go maybe right after “Invoking guix
> system”. WDYT?
That sounds good, done!
>
> > +When using @code{vm-image}, the returned image is in qcow2 format, which
> > +the QEMU emulator can efficiently use.
>
> In the new section, this would need to be slightly adjusted to give more
> context, like:
>
> One way to run GuixSD in a virtual machine is to build a GuixSD
> virtual machine image using @command{guix system vm-image}
> (@pxref{Invoking guix system}). The returned image is in qcow2
> format, which the @uref{http://qemu.org/, QEMU emulator} can
> efficiently use.
Thanks for this :)
[...]
> > +@example
> > +$ qemu-system-x86_64 \
> > +-net user \
> > +-net nic,model=virtio \
> > +-enable-kvm \
> > +-m 256 \
> > +/tmp/qemu-image
> > +@end example
>
> I think it would be nicer to put it on 3 lines.
Done.
[...]
> I would typeset it as:
>
> @table @code
> @item qemu-system-x86_64
> This specifies the hardware platform to…
>
> @item -net user
> Enable unpriviliged user-mode networking…
> …
>
> @end @table
>
> With all this, it’s going to look perfect! :-)
Thank you for this example. I really need to study what Texinfo can do.
>
> Another question that people often ask is how to install GuixSD from the
> installation image in a VM. Maybe that could be added eventually in a
> subsection of this new node?
I agree, that would be useful. If anybody knows how to do that, they
should chime in.
>
> Thank you!
Thanks for your helpful feedback!
>
> Ludo’.
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