bug#20889: python Tkinter

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Federico Beffa]

The python package does not provide Tkinter which is part of the
Python Standard Library
https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html?highlight=tkinter#module-tkinter

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Cyril Roelandt]

On 06/24/2015 09:14 AM, Federico Beffa wrote:
> The python package does not provide Tkinter which is part of the
> Python Standard Library
> https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html?highlight=tkinter#module-tkinter
> 

I think we need to add tcl and tk to the inputs, and add the
corresponding "-I" and "-L" flags to the configure flags. The issue is
that tk depends on Python (through libx11, which depends on libxcb,
which depends on Python), so we end up with a circular dependency
leading to what I reported in
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20967 .

I think we should:
- rename the Python package to "python-without-tkinter" or
"python-minimal" and use that as a dependency in xorg.scm;
- define a "python" package that would inherit the "minimal Python"
package and add the dependency on tcl/tk to it.


WDYT ?

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Ludovic Courtès]

Cyril Roelandt <tipecaml@gmail.com> skribis:

> On 06/24/2015 09:14 AM, Federico Beffa wrote:
>> The python package does not provide Tkinter which is part of the
>> Python Standard Library
>> https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html?highlight=tkinter#module-tkinter
>> 
>
> I think we need to add tcl and tk to the inputs, and add the
> corresponding "-I" and "-L" flags to the configure flags. The issue is
> that tk depends on Python (through libx11, which depends on libxcb,
> which depends on Python), so we end up with a circular dependency
> leading to what I reported in
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20967 .
>
> I think we should:
> - rename the Python package to "python-without-tkinter" or
> "python-minimal" and use that as a dependency in xorg.scm;
> - define a "python" package that would inherit the "minimal Python"
> package and add the dependency on tcl/tk to it.

How frequently do Python packages rely on the availability of Tkinter?

I’m asking because it might be that we could keep the default Python
without Tk, and only use the Tk-enabled Python for the few packages that
need it, if it’s rare enough.

WDYT?

Ludo’.

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Cyril Roelandt]

On 07/05/2015 12:16 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> I’m asking because it might be that we could keep the default Python
> without Tk, and only use the Tk-enabled Python for the few packages that
> need it, if it’s rare enough.

No, we do not want that. Users who install Python expect to be able to
import tkinter, since it is part of the standard library.

Cyril.

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Federico Beffa]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Cyril Roelandt <tipecaml@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/05/2015 12:16 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> I’m asking because it might be that we could keep the default Python
>> without Tk, and only use the Tk-enabled Python for the few packages that
>> need it, if it’s rare enough.
>
> No, we do not want that. Users who install Python expect to be able to
> import tkinter, since it is part of the standard library.

I agree with Cyril.

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Ludovic Courtès]

Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> skribis:

> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Cyril Roelandt <tipecaml@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 07/05/2015 12:16 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>>> I’m asking because it might be that we could keep the default Python
>>> without Tk, and only use the Tk-enabled Python for the few packages that
>>> need it, if it’s rare enough.
>>
>> No, we do not want that. Users who install Python expect to be able to
>> import tkinter, since it is part of the standard library.
>
> I agree with Cyril.

OK.  Then we effectively need to proceed as you suggest: Build
python-minimal (which does not depend on Tk), build Tk, and then build
python.

But we should make sure that python-minimal is not retained, if
possible.

Ludo’.

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Andreas Enge]

On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 12:21:11PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> OK.  Then we effectively need to proceed as you suggest: Build
> python-minimal (which does not depend on Tk), build Tk, and then build
> python.

And maybe this python-minimal could be smaller than the current python,
in the sense of "minimal"?

Andreas

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Ludovic Courtès]

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:

> OK.  Then we effectively need to proceed as you suggest: Build
> python-minimal (which does not depend on Tk), build Tk, and then build
> python.

Done in commits 95288fc and afa181f.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Ludovic Courtès]

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:

> OK.  Then we effectively need to proceed as you suggest: Build
> python-minimal (which does not depend on Tk), build Tk, and then build
> python.

Done in commits 95288fc and afa181f.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Federico Beffa]

If I start python3 and do:

-------------------------------------------------------
$ python3
Python 3.4.3 (default, Oct  9 2015, 22:53:58)
[GCC 4.9.3] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import tkinter
>>> root = tkinter.Tk()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/gnu/store/y5x6c38fzrbfl80jxrgjd6py2k88x12a-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/tkinter/__init__.py",
line 1851, in __init__
    self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className,
interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use)
_tkinter.TclError: Can't find a usable tk.tcl in the following directories:
    /gnu/store/sd4fcdk9yzh1s0230fjx1yfwk9pl71bf-tcl-8.6.4/lib/tcl8.6/tk8.6
/gnu/store/sd4fcdk9yzh1s0230fjx1yfwk9pl71bf-tcl-8.6.4/lib/tk8.6
/gnu/store/y5x6c38fzrbfl80jxrgjd6py2k88x12a-python-3.4.3/lib/tk8.6
/gnu/store/lib/tk8.6
/gnu/store/y5x6c38fzrbfl80jxrgjd6py2k88x12a-python-3.4.3/library



This probably means that tk wasn't installed properly.
-------------------------------------------------------

Did you successfully test it?

Regards,
Fede

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Federico Beffa]

with:

$TCLLIBPATH=/gnu/store/c4rpx4050d0qkccwbzggabag403b31l3-tk-8.6.4/lib python3

it works. So I guess that 'tcl' needs a search-path-specification.

Regards,
Fede

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Federico Beffa]

... and the configure script for Python defines the flag
'--with-tcltk-libs'. Maybe that would help...

Regards,
Fede

bug#20889: python Tkinter

[Ludovic Courtès]

Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> skribis:

> >>> root = tkinter.Tk()
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>   File "/gnu/store/y5x6c38fzrbfl80jxrgjd6py2k88x12a-python-3.4.3/lib/python3.4/tkinter/__init__.py",
> line 1851, in __init__
>     self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className,
> interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use)
> _tkinter.TclError: Can't find a usable tk.tcl in the following directories:
>     /gnu/store/sd4fcdk9yzh1s0230fjx1yfwk9pl71bf-tcl-8.6.4/lib/tcl8.6/tk8.6
> /gnu/store/sd4fcdk9yzh1s0230fjx1yfwk9pl71bf-tcl-8.6.4/lib/tk8.6
> /gnu/store/y5x6c38fzrbfl80jxrgjd6py2k88x12a-python-3.4.3/lib/tk8.6
> /gnu/store/lib/tk8.6
> /gnu/store/y5x6c38fzrbfl80jxrgjd6py2k88x12a-python-3.4.3/library

This error message comes from Tcl, in file ‘auto.tcl’, procedure
‘tcl_findLibrary’.

We’d need to find where the call comes from and hard-code a search path
in there maybe?

> Did you successfully test it?

I just did “import tkinter.”

> with:
>
> $TCLLIBPATH=/gnu/store/c4rpx4050d0qkccwbzggabag403b31l3-tk-8.6.4/lib python3
>
> it works. So I guess that 'tcl' needs a search-path-specification.

Yes.  That wouldn’t help for Python though, where we need to hard-code
the search path somehow.

> ... and the configure script for Python defines the flag
> '--with-tcltk-libs'. Maybe that would help...

I don’t think it would help because Python finds Tcl and Tk anyway.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

bug#20889: Tkinter moved to separate output

[Federico Beffa]

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Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> writes:

> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> skribis:

> Looking into the failed build directory, it seems that PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> is set correctly. Still, it doesn't get the correct flags.

The attached patch fixes the problem and I can now plot with TkAgg :-)

Thanks for making Tkinter available!
Fede

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From b40cf5522bcc15166ca07dfbae50167203d29e2d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Federico Beffa <beffa@fbengineering.ch>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 17:20:59 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] gnu: python-matplotlib: Add 'TkAgg' backend and update to
 version '1.4.3'.

* gnu/packages/python.scm (python-matplotlib): Do it.
* gnu/packages/patches/matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch: New file.
---
 gnu/packages/patches/matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 gnu/packages/python.scm                           | 17 +++++++++----
 2 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 gnu/packages/patches/matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch

diff --git a/gnu/packages/patches/matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch b/gnu/packages/patches/matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..cd0332e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/gnu/packages/patches/matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+Use 'pkg-config' instead of heuristics to find 'tk' flags.
+
+--- matplotlib-1.4.3/setupext.py.orig	2015-12-01 14:21:19.554417453 +0100
++++ matplotlib-1.4.3/setupext.py	2015-12-01 14:35:51.999928797 +0100
+@@ -1457,7 +1457,7 @@
+             p = subprocess.Popen(
+                 '. %s ; eval echo ${%s}' % (file, varname),
+                 shell=True,
+-                executable="/bin/sh",
++                executable="sh",
+                 stdout=subprocess.PIPE)
+             result = p.communicate()[0]
+             return result.decode('ascii')
+@@ -1601,8 +1601,15 @@
+             #      of distros.
+ 
+             # Query Tcl/Tk system for library paths and version string
++            def getoutput(s):
++                ret = os.popen(s).read().strip()
++                return ret
+             try:
+-                tcl_lib_dir, tk_lib_dir, tk_ver = self.query_tcltk()
++                #tcl_lib_dir, tk_lib_dir, tk_ver = self.query_tcltk()
++                pkg_config_res = getoutput('pkg-config --libs tk').split()
++                tk_ver = pkg_config_res[-1][-3:]
++                tcl_lib_dir = pkg_config_res[0][2:] + '/tcl' + tk_ver
++                tk_lib_dir = pkg_config_res[1][2:] + '/tk' + tk_ver
+             except:
+                 tk_ver = ''
+                 result = self.hardcoded_tcl_config()
diff --git a/gnu/packages/python.scm b/gnu/packages/python.scm
index 39d0751..5e23bab 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/python.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/python.scm
@@ -3175,7 +3175,7 @@ transcendental functions).")
 (define-public python-matplotlib
   (package
     (name "python-matplotlib")
-    (version "1.4.2")
+    (version "1.4.3")
     (source
      (origin
        (method url-fetch)
@@ -3183,13 +3183,15 @@ transcendental functions).")
                            "/matplotlib-" version ".tar.gz"))
        (sha256
         (base32
-         "0m6v9nwdldlwk22gcd339zg6mny5m301fxgks7z8sb8m9wawg8qp"))))
+         "1dn05cvd0g984lzhh72wa0z93psgwshbbg93fkab6slx5m3l95av"))
+       (patches (list (search-patch "matplotlib-setupext-tk.patch")))))
     (build-system python-build-system)
     (outputs '("out" "doc"))
     (propagated-inputs ; the following packages are all needed at run time
      `(("python-pyparsing" ,python-pyparsing)
        ("python-pygobject" ,python-pygobject)
        ("gobject-introspection" ,gobject-introspection)
+       ("python" ,python "tk")
        ;; The 'gtk+' package (and 'gdk-pixbuf', 'atk' and 'pango' propagated
        ;; from 'gtk+') provides the required 'typelib' files used by
        ;; 'gobject-introspection'. The location of these files is set with the
@@ -3224,7 +3226,8 @@ transcendental functions).")
        ;; FIXME: Add backends when available.
        ;("python-wxpython" ,python-wxpython)
        ;("python-pyqt" ,python-pyqt)
-       ))
+       ("tcl" ,tcl)
+       ("tk" ,tk)))
     (native-inputs
      `(("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
        ("texlive" ,texlive)
@@ -3243,8 +3246,12 @@ transcendental functions).")
             (setenv "HOME" (getcwd))
             (call-with-output-file "setup.cfg"
               (lambda (port)
-                (format port "[rc_options]~%
-backend = GTK3Agg~%")))))
+                (format port "[directories]~%
+basedirlist = ~a,~a~%
+[rc_options]~%
+backend = TkAgg~%"
+                        (assoc-ref inputs "tcl")
+                        (assoc-ref inputs "tk"))))))
         (alist-cons-after
          'install 'install-doc
          (lambda* (#:key outputs #:allow-other-keys)
-- 
2.4.3