From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pjotr Prins Subject: Re: Guix in single-user mode (degenerated?) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:43:42 +0200 Message-ID: <20150601224342.GA24331@thebird.nl> References: <20150601162914.GA22989@thebird.nl> <87r3pvfbid.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36391) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YzYRD-0001Ax-7R for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:44:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YzYR9-0006vQ-6S for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:44:07 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r3pvfbid.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 09:56:42PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > > There are situations where I can't get root - mostly on scientific > > cluster environments. I don't think it is a priority, but it would be > > a good to have if it works. >=20 > Yes, that=E2=80=99s an issue. Unfortunately, users would sacrifice > reproducibility by running the daemon as non-root (and we would get > reports about builds that fail unexpectedly), and using a non-standard > store directory may also hit shebang length limits and so on. >=20 > So I think we must bribe a bunch of HPC sysadmins ;-), get experience > with real system-wide installations on such systems, and see what needs > to be adjusted. Thanks to Ricardo and his lab we already have some > feedback: . It is a good writeup, indeed, and may help make a case. Somehow the people who run clusters are not so enlightened. > If you are in a position where you can experiment with such a setup, > your experience would be invaluable! I am not in a position to change things, but maybe others are. The good news is that VMs are becoming more common and may drive change. Give it another 5-10 years and I expect it to be less of an issue. Pj.