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From: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
To: Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Lack of locales in build environment
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:02:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150210180225.GA4178@intra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKrPhPMAM8zBeKQobX-6jZtJaKBDa+gMbCnpc0fznmkR66oCfA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 06:36:58PM +0100, Federico Beffa wrote:
     On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
     > Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> skribis:
     >
     >> Guile-ncurses was fixed by adding a new phase to generate the
     >> "en_US.UTF-8" locale during the generation of the package, but wouldn't
     >> it be better to keep the "en_US.UTF-8" locale? That appears to be the
     >> default used by most packages.
     >
     > That’s an open question.  The vast majority of packages is happy with
     > just the C locale, and some need something more.
     >
     > So far the approach has been to fix these one by one (that’s 4 packages
     > so far) but if it happens to be frequent enough or cumbersome, we can
     > change that in the next core-updates to have en_US.UTF-8 available by
     > default.
     
     
	(i) we already are at 7 (4+3) packages requiring an UTF-8 locale 

Then that is a bug which should be filed against those pacakges.

     (ii) This is another small step in
     making maintenance easier by providing an environment setting that
     sometimes helps.

It sounds like a slippery slope.  If we shovel in everything into the defaults, 
that might possibly help somebody do something, someday we'll end up with a very
bloated system.

The C locale is the canonical locale. UTF-8 is not the only characater encoding in
the world.  English is not the only language in the world, and US English is not
the only dialect of English.

J'
     

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-10 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-10 16:38 core-updates merged! Federico Beffa
2015-02-10 17:13 ` Lack of locales in build environment Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-10 17:36   ` Federico Beffa
2015-02-10 18:02     ` John Darrington [this message]
2015-02-10 21:13       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-10 21:15     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-10 18:46 ` core-updates merged! Andreas Enge
2015-02-10 18:50   ` John Darrington
2015-02-10 19:38   ` Federico Beffa
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2015-02-10 19:54 Lack of locales in build environment Federico Beffa

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