From: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
To: Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org>
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Lack of locales in build environment
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:02:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150210180225.GA4178@intra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKrPhPMAM8zBeKQobX-6jZtJaKBDa+gMbCnpc0fznmkR66oCfA@mail.gmail.com>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1741 bytes --]
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 06:36:58PM +0100, Federico Beffa wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> skribis:
>
>> Guile-ncurses was fixed by adding a new phase to generate the
>> "en_US.UTF-8" locale during the generation of the package, but wouldn't
>> it be better to keep the "en_US.UTF-8" locale? That appears to be the
>> default used by most packages.
>
> That’s an open question. The vast majority of packages is happy with
> just the C locale, and some need something more.
>
> So far the approach has been to fix these one by one (that’s 4 packages
> so far) but if it happens to be frequent enough or cumbersome, we can
> change that in the next core-updates to have en_US.UTF-8 available by
> default.
(i) we already are at 7 (4+3) packages requiring an UTF-8 locale
Then that is a bug which should be filed against those pacakges.
(ii) This is another small step in
making maintenance easier by providing an environment setting that
sometimes helps.
It sounds like a slippery slope. If we shovel in everything into the defaults,
that might possibly help somebody do something, someday we'll end up with a very
bloated system.
The C locale is the canonical locale. UTF-8 is not the only characater encoding in
the world. English is not the only language in the world, and US English is not
the only dialect of English.
J'
--
PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3
fingerprint = 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3
See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key.
[-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-10 18:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-10 16:38 core-updates merged! Federico Beffa
2015-02-10 17:13 ` Lack of locales in build environment Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-10 17:36 ` Federico Beffa
2015-02-10 18:02 ` John Darrington [this message]
2015-02-10 21:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-10 21:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-02-10 18:46 ` core-updates merged! Andreas Enge
2015-02-10 18:50 ` John Darrington
2015-02-10 19:38 ` Federico Beffa
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-10 19:54 Lack of locales in build environment Federico Beffa
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20150210180225.GA4178@intra \
--to=john@darrington.wattle.id.au \
--cc=beffa@ieee.org \
--cc=guix-devel@gnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.