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Resent-From: Tanguy LE CARROUR Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69997 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: Sharlatan Hellseher , Munyoki Kilyungi , Lars-Dominik Braun , jgart , Marius Bakke , 69997@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 69997-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B69997.171169837823590 (code B ref 69997); Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 69997) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2024 07:46:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41631 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rq6wL-00068P-EC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:46:17 -0400 Received: from smtp-42ac.mail.infomaniak.ch ([2001:1600:4:17::42ac]:48461) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rq6wF-00067S-HR for 69997@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 03:46:15 -0400 Received: from smtp-4-0000.mail.infomaniak.ch (smtp-4-0000.mail.infomaniak.ch [10.7.10.107]) by smtp-3-3000.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4V5XXB3zLvz10W; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:46:02 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bioneland.org; s=20230804; t=1711698362; bh=tatndpR9/wyY+TEitbH/WhSOPgG3ty5d0qeNo/RSDn8=; h=References:Subject:From:Cc:To:In-Reply-To:Date:From; b=nk34G+FotTi9jfiV3t4BQUmuO5TVNgKFg4vrQ+XAIhs4Fuh8LMM+OOHR9Ho/TH6lT t898fcaSpeCqhJ7DbC4XZ4tbHtkcEBpMfEtluBzHYJR1yy/qwz+FBCoPyEkTKApWf7 idB7sac40XZcWBY8j7b7J1zpO/Xw5xmzwota7TAedoCCktpDd/urYcQYm5j0X3+Q/i 8Xb+y7IUtKBR2R2NCTYW5WYqXgHroCOlOv133OROAS+UuekF+hxzVgQZCDeugGtAJy kvo92gK5ClXdxl055E7ZmmZLPSkObbj2GOjgwtdQ7El0ojDaaJDkh/6xm1FLga758c R/9vKEtANf4kg== Received: from unknown by smtp-4-0000.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4V5XX96Jk6zTt; Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:46:01 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <877chqtvsk.fsf@inria.fr> <171143965734.4362.8405481724513962855@bioneland.org> <87o7b1ou6z.fsf@inria.fr> <171147212395.13452.3553266600176809571@bioneland.org> <87msqikz2q.fsf@inria.fr> From: Tanguy LE CARROUR In-Reply-To: <87msqikz2q.fsf@inria.fr> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:46:01 +0100 Message-ID: <171169836168.1828.14021738276113751443@bioneland.org> User-Agent: alot/0.10 X-Infomaniak-Routing: alpha X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -1.35 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CAC523F958 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.35 X-TUID: 5A//ZFx/lT61 Hi Ludo=E2=80=99, Quoting Ludovic Court=C3=A8s (2024-03-28 19:09:49) > Tanguy LE CARROUR skribis: >=20 > > Quoting Ludovic Court=C3=A8s (2024-03-26 17:04:52) >=20 > [...] >=20 > >> But then I mean, we could offer, say, =E2=80=98guix import upstream ht= tps://=E2=80=A6=E2=80=99, > >> and that thing could parse =E2=80=98setup.py=E2=80=99 or similar to pr= oduce a package > >> definition from that. > > > > I=E2=80=99m not against a good-old-generic-solution=C2=AE, but this one= might be > > a bit=E2=80=A6 too generic. It contains no mention to Python, so the ne= xt logical step > > would be `guix import URL`. Not that I would not like it, though! =F0= =9F=98=81 >=20 > Well, this has been on my mind for a long time. Such a tool could > provide at least a useful package skeleton even for software using CMake > or Autotools. >=20 > > So I would say=E2=80=A6 let=E2=80=99s wait and see what the others thin= k. In the > > meantime, I=E2=80=99ll have to dive deeper in the PEP and the actual im= porter > > code. >=20 > Looks like consensus among you Pythonistas has yet to be reached > regarding whether =E2=80=98pyproject.toml=E2=80=99 data would be a useful= addition. :-) I have to admit that the Zen of Python [1] "There should be one-- and prefe= rably only one -- obvious way to do it." has been recently difficult to follow packaging-wise! [1]: https://peps.python.org/pep-0020 Even Poetry, the one I=E2=80=99ve been using for years, as made questionable decisions [2] and I have to admit that I had a look at the competitors. [2]: https://python-poetry.org/docs/faq/#why-does-poetry-not-adhere-to-sema= ntic-versioning > PS: I hear more and more long-time Python developers dismayed by the sad > state of packaging and code evolution in Python. In Guile land, we > say: refugees welcome! Come discover a great language and a great > community (together with their own set of problems). Thanks for the kind invitation, but=E2=80=A6 I have an acute form of parens= -itis. Seeing more that a pair of parenthesis on a single line make my eyes bleed!= =F0=9F=98=85 And=E2=80=A6 `#` is for comments, every other use is complete heresy and th= ose who go against the creed should suffer! =E2=80=A6 isn=E2=80=99t that what t= he parentheses are for?! =F0=9F=98=89 Any way, thanks again for caring about Python! Regards, --=20 Tanguy