From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: HiPhish Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:30:52 +0100 Message-ID: <1605080.KxgDGXkh13@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> References: <11169507.O9o76ZdvQC@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <3893574.yNgoui0T1j@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <87a7mua2kz.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51671) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHpeH-0002Q1-5H for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:31:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHpeB-0001wT-FL for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:31:01 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:49781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHpeB-0001vV-81 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:30:55 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 424932115C for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:30:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 42lSNr4Kz8z6tm9 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:30:52 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87a7mua2kz.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org I am really trying to understand the other side here, so please help me out on this one. Let's say you have two people for the sake of simplicity, we can call them Alice and Bob. Alice and Bob hate each other's guts, Alice is unwilling to work on the team if Bob stays on the team, but Bob is willing to work on the team regardless of Alice. Furthermore, Bob has already worthwhile contributions under his belt, whereas Alice has done nothing yet, but she might if Bob were to be remove. And your choice would be to remove Bob from the team. Am I correct so far? What sense does it make to remove someone who 1) has already a proven track- record and 2) has shown that he is willing to control his emotions to focus on the task, all in the hopes that 3) the other person might perhaps fill in the void and 4) already has show to let emotions override work duty, and 5) has a track-record of wanting people remove from the project? Please explain to me how kicking Bob out of the team is supposed to improve the project. I am really trying hard to wrap my head around the issue, but this logic is entirely alien to me. Wouldn't it make more sense to just tell people to keep any personal grudges out of the workplace and carry on? It is not that the project management is preventing Alice from joining, she refuses out of her own volition.