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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1646103936; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=L2Kh7mdSZxihmDvzFCC0tdzTrZeFBXcOIe8b3xra7YA=; b=oMY5UzRwbuEfpOp3XZNGLnSSqIV484Hu4Q1BriHTwbLcRu64lhWhyem3fi8G0RqxgUKR5L IqXkP5cXL31s+WmVRNg+gR/3kwBiuOHzFcIqD3sTqrogtOkJCEkxvNYY+N1KVK0g8vbzKz u2TO5HsCPZ5t42VY2D7G7taUM5twdQeZ8BqaXeNzx9UGWTmVzOBY5Bgy10P9p4Ibu4TjM+ fQmunomzzXIal/5nrIDOnacwNyq4lA7qV+q5EotZV/kjUJ0/bi/MJPmXgijXSGPEsmo9GY sRZtP5xGoDWYq2zguVBSSBJCZcXK3zgydLQQWqeEXrZakACTBJiRDD+iMWurPg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1646103936; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=WOFVdHewwFDH+dA8nJRF0Td+FJw24aipXOqdB72Plv/4PbhVtr56m7Bz1M0CJS+kLgaKHu WR1MS0TAmd+ZRwWsfc7sccDVpi/xoOyw+m7B8AHWAb/6+rLo0XedXjrzWXxaoIy0kKvM01 UMCq+pqx8s06DpAruHy2u5uwFJ5tgdW2XsFAnn3n++DB+14SEZyxBh3ATESJZV1hx36jfo u8pE7rQotT1NLAa4WRVZX2nRvSh1mT2j7eQTQaErB6Yj7PTVpSFcVCg6COH8mT4AWc+XIn h9iBsLgll46OxI9xZ0zov6IrJoNxWTFi9ciEQHI4G7pyagGX1QxVfl4YRQ9TNg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=tobias.gr header.s=2018 header.b=K5+rw4qm; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=tobias.gr; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.39 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=tobias.gr header.s=2018 header.b=K5+rw4qm; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=tobias.gr; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E3C9026570 X-Spam-Score: -5.39 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ojU70v7CvHm8 Good god, man=2E You spectacularly botched your original proposal=2E That should have been= the end of it=2E Instead, we all have to suffer through your inability no= t to have the last word=2E Or indeed thousand words=2E That's cruel & unu= sual collective punishment, that is=2E To protect you from further poor judgment, I've revoked your posting privi= leges to these lists=2E You're not being cancelled=2E The right to publish to every Guixer's inbo= x has always been based on whitelists of folks who could be trusted with it= =2E You could still post, though I suggest you give it a rest=2E You'll just = be queued with the spammers & the trolls & occasional new user -- alas, in = that order :-) -- pending approval=2E Since I'll defer to a majority of maintainers for that, I don't imagine it= will be swift=2E Kind regards, T G-R Sent on the go=2E Excuse or enjoy my brevity=2E