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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tugraz.at header.s=mailrelay header.b="cFhXhju/"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=student.tugraz.at (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5E4CC1A555 X-Spam-Score: -1.34 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: gPOZXnzGKBJD Hi, Am Sonntag, den 18.04.2021, 18:45 +0000 schrieb bo0od: > > My bad, I meant to type 500GB (a fairly common disk size), but it > turns > > out my other laptop survives quite fine on 250. Fair enough, it's > not > > 32GB (common in phones), but then again, you'd run normally very > > different packages on embedded systems. > > yeah 100+ GB thats too big, not always having this space is easy or > available. It is common enough for desktop PCs and laptops, which is the use case I'm talking about here. If you're hosting a server, chances also are, that you have that much, if not more space available. For cases, in which you have significantly less memory available, there is a bare- bones template. > > There are several ways of optimizing for profile size, one of > which is > > to not run huge browsers like icecat. I have no idea what kind of > > system you're trying to fit into 20GB , but a hard idea thinking > it's > > the right kind. > > I have debian,fedora,kali,ubuntu,trisquel/triskel,arch... all with > only > 20GB space and working for testing purposes as im mostly working as > software tester. I'm fairly certain you should be able to get test environments, that fit this size via `guix environment', but if that's your plan, you shouldn't do much else with the space you have. Might I ask if you're the kind to keep a separate /home? > > What kind of advanced removal strategies are you talking about? > > I didnt suggested how its done in my ticket, I gave the issue and > feature request as a solution to it but how to do it the best way i > leave this to the devs to decide not me. "Please remove all my previous stuff whenever I upgrade a package" is a rather specific feature request in my opinion. I don't think there is much room for bikeshedding different implementations of it, though of course, Debian, Arch, Gentoo etc. are all different distributions, that produce it as a side-effect of what they're actually trying to do. > If out of ideas and nothing is available look at other distributions > and > see how its done and what can be taken from them and merge into guix > to > adopt this feature. How did other distributions "adopt this feature" in your opinion? Regards, Leo