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From: Dale Mellor <guix-devel-0brg6a@rdmp.org>
To: Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:36:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <077b1a0fdec4d0f30209c28d75dc40811c77a4a9.camel@rdmp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734pa5mlx.fsf@meson>

On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 07:19 -0700, Ian Eure wrote:
> Hi MSavoritias,
> 
> Thank you for the email.
> 
> I’m going to lay out this situation as clearly as I can, in the 
> hope that others will better understand, and hopefully treat it 
> with the seriousness it deserves.
> 
> 1. Guix requests SWH to archive some source code.  This is fine.

  No, it's not.  I use Guix as a tool to develop my own projects, private and
personal for reasons I'm keeping to myself.  As part of that I write package
definitions for them, and use the Guix machinery to build and test.  I *cannot*
have Guix just giving my code away to anybody, that is just fundamentally wrong.

  We need to ask what is Guix?  A free operating system, a framework for
developing free operating systems, or a more generic tool for software
development and deployment?  If the latter it *cannot* do nefarious things
without explicit consent.

  I think at least there should be a /restricted/ license type available to
package definitions, and the system absolutely should not give source code away
from packages which use this (of course, they won't get into the official
distribution, but that's fine).

  More broadly, I think they should just stop inter-operating with SH.  Just
walk away.

Dale



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-20 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-18  8:37 Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem MSavoritias
2024-06-18 14:19 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  8:36   ` Dale Mellor [this message]
2024-06-20 17:00     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 18:42       ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 20:54         ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 20:59           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20 21:12             ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21  8:41             ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-21  9:19               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:33                 ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:51               ` Exclude checker with package properties [draft PATCH] Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:37                 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-21 18:44                   ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-21 18:42                 ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-22 15:54                 ` Draft: dry-run + Exclude checker with package properties Simon Tournier
2024-06-20 21:27         ` Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem Simon Tournier
2024-06-18 16:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 16:33   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-18 17:31     ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 17:57       ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  7:01       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19  9:57         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-20  2:56         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-20  5:18           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:10 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21  8:39 ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Simon Tournier
2024-06-21  9:12   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21  9:46     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21 10:44       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:45         ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 14:15           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 16:33             ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-21 17:04               ` Msavoritias
2024-06-21 16:34             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-06-21 16:51         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-21 17:22           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 20:51             ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-06-22 15:46               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 17:55                 ` Breath, let take a short break :-) Simon Tournier
2024-06-24  7:30                   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24 10:23                     ` Tomas Volf
2024-06-24 11:56                     ` Lets cut this off Efraim Flashner
2024-06-21 17:25           ` About SWH, let avoid the wrong discussion Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-22 13:06         ` Richard Sent
2024-06-22 14:42           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-22 19:53             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-06-24  7:55               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-24  9:13                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-06-18 17:12 Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem Andy Tai
2024-06-18 18:08 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19 10:31   ` raingloom
2024-06-27 12:27   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-06-27 15:30     ` Ian Eure
2024-06-27 16:48       ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-27 16:58       ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-06-19  7:52 Simon Tournier
2024-06-19  9:13 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19  9:54   ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-19 10:25     ` raingloom
2024-06-19 15:46       ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20  6:36         ` MSavoritias
2024-06-20 14:35           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-21  8:51             ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:34     ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 14:41   ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-20  6:51     ` MSavoritias
2024-06-20 14:40       ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-21  9:08         ` MSavoritias
2024-06-28 18:01 Juliana Sims

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