bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[swedebugia]

"Installing for i386-pc platform.
Installation finished. No error reported."

After reboot:
  $ uname -a
Linux komputilo 4.20.3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux

The i386 is technically incorrect according to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386 and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished. No 
error reported."

-- 
Cheers
Swedebugia

bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[Leo Famulari]

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:12:58PM +0100, swedebugia wrote:
> "Installing for i386-pc platform.
> Installation finished. No error reported."

This message comes from GRUB. Not having read the GRUB docs closely, I
assume it refers to the bootloader style ("PC" vs EFI) rather than the
CPU architecture.

I agree it's a bit misleading, especially to non-technical users. I
wonder how it could be improved, however?

In the long run, I think we should offer a graphical interface to `guix
system`, `guix package`, etc, and in that case non-technical users would
never see this message.

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bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[Julien Lepiller]

Le 23 janvier 2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net> a écrit :
>"Installing for i386-pc platform.
>Installation finished. No error reported."
>
>After reboot:
>  $ uname -a
>Linux komputilo 4.20.3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
>The i386 is technically incorrect according to 
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386 and 
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
>
>I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished. No 
>error reported."

Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode. "No error reported" is also from grub and is very confusing…

bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> writes:

> Le 23 janvier 2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net> a écrit :
>>"Installing for i386-pc platform.
>>Installation finished. No error reported."
>>
>>After reboot:
>>  $ uname -a
>>Linux komputilo 4.20.3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>>The i386 is technically incorrect according to
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386 and
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
>>
>>I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished. No
>>error reported."
>
> Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly
> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode. "No error
> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing…

Maybe we should

1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
“installing bootloader”

What do you think?

--
Ricardo

bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[swedebugia]

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Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skrev: (23 januari 2019 23:27:26 CET)
>
>Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> writes:
>
>> Le 23 janvier 2019 22:12:58 GMT+01:00, swedebugia
><swedebugia@riseup.net> a écrit :
>>>"Installing for i386-pc platform.
>>>Installation finished. No error reported."
>>>
>>>After reboot:
>>>  $ uname -a
>>>Linux komputilo 4.20.3-gnu #1 SMP 1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>
>>>The i386 is technically incorrect according to
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386 and
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
>>>
>>>I think we should drop the line and keep "Installation finished. No
>>>error reported."
>>
>> Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly
>> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode. "No error
>> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing…
>
>Maybe we should
>
>1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
>2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
>“installing bootloader”
>
>What do you think?
>
>--
>Ricardo

+1 😃
-- 
Sent from my p≡p for Android.

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bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[Ludovic Courtès]

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

> Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> writes:

[...]

>> Hi, this message is actually from grub-install and is perfectly
>> correct: it means it's intalling in legacy (bios) mode. "No error
>> reported" is also from grub and is very confusing…
>
> Maybe we should
>
> 1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
> 2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
> “installing bootloader”
>
> What do you think?

Good idea, that would avoid confusions; I’m fine one way or the other.

It may still be useful, though, to grab the raw messages from these
tools in case something goes wrong (or even if it succeeds but
‘grub-install’ made an EFI install when you were expecting a BIOS
install, say.)

Thanks,
Ludo’.

bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[Leo Famulari]

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:27:26PM +0100, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
> Maybe we should
> 
> 1) prefix messages from other tools with the name of the tool, and
> 2) hide these tool messages by default behind descriptive messages like
> “installing bootloader”

Yes, absolutely. We just had another person ask about this on IRC.

It may not be the most important thing to fix overall, but it's one of
the first things people see when starting with a Guix system so it is
important.

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bug#34184: Nitpick on reconfigure message: Installing for i386-pc platform.

[Ricardo Wurmus]

I believe this was fixed by commit
21fcfe1ee969cc477dc41486ae4074e655d44274.

Closing.

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Ricardo