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I've used Jami until recently. As other people already mentioned, installi= ng the "jami" package should be enough. I only used it to converse with one person at a time, not group [audio|vid= eo]chats. When it worked, it was enjoyable. Unfortunately, most of the tim= e it didn't. I tried it for several months at different times, checking if upgrades wou= ld improve the experience, but the experience wasn't good enough to grow a= list of contacts that included people from mainstream culture (people use= d to WhatsApp and proprietary software in general). The few contacts I had= (~5) eventually stopped using the application because of its constant mal= functioning. Some contacts left making harsh comments about it. Most noticeable problems: =E2=80=A2 Missing messages =E2=80=A2 Sharing images, voice messages and files seldom worked This was pretty much people on Windows and Android devices and only me on = a Guix System. The problems were not limited to communication with me, tho= ugh, they were also present in android-to-android and windows-to-android c= ommunication. There were a couple of times though were I could stablish audio communicat= ion for more than one hour without problems. But those times were exceptio= ns. That said, please try it out. Maybe things have changed. I hope. Also, if you'd like to try it out, make sure there are substitutes availab= le. 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