* Updating guix for root
@ 2018-08-28 12:47 Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-28 16:45 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-08-28 19:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
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From: Konrad Hinsen @ 2018-08-28 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-guix
Hi Guixers,
I wonder what the correct way is to update Guix for the root user.
I did "guix pull" and got the new Guix under /root/.config/guix/current.
This also contains the daemon under
/root/.config/guix/current/bin/guix-daemon. So far, fine.
However, the systemd service still launches the daemon from
/var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/bin/guix-daemon. So if I
uninstall the package "guix" for the root account (see
https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-guix@gnu.org/msg09793.html), I will
probably remove the guix-daemon that is used on system startup.
Should I
1) update /etc/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service
to point to the current daemon? If so, is
/root/.config/guix/current/bin/guix-daemon
the right (stable) path to use?
2) Get an updated guix-daemon.service from somewhere?
If so, from where?
3) Do nothing, and keep using the old guix-daemon?
4) Do yet something else?
Konrad.
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* Re: Updating guix for root
2018-08-28 12:47 Updating guix for root Konrad Hinsen
@ 2018-08-28 16:45 ` Clément Lassieur
2018-08-30 15:02 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-28 19:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Clément Lassieur @ 2018-08-28 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konrad Hinsen; +Cc: help-guix
Hi Konrad,
Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net> writes:
> Hi Guixers,
>
> I wonder what the correct way is to update Guix for the root user.
> I did "guix pull" and got the new Guix under /root/.config/guix/current.
> This also contains the daemon under
> /root/.config/guix/current/bin/guix-daemon. So far, fine.
>
> However, the systemd service still launches the daemon from
> /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/bin/guix-daemon. So if I
> uninstall the package "guix" for the root account (see
> https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-guix@gnu.org/msg09793.html), I will
> probably remove the guix-daemon that is used on system startup.
>
> Should I
>
> 1) update /etc/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service
> to point to the current daemon? If so, is
> /root/.config/guix/current/bin/guix-daemon
> the right (stable) path to use?
>
> 2) Get an updated guix-daemon.service from somewhere?
> If so, from where?
>
> 3) Do nothing, and keep using the old guix-daemon?
>
> 4) Do yet something else?
>
> Konrad.
If you are the only user on your computer, you probably don't need Guix
to be installed at all for the 'root' user, and can just make sure
/etc/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service points to
/home/user/.config/guix/current/bin/guix-daemon. It will be updated
when you will 'guix pull' as a normal user, to the last guix package,
and hopefully, later, to the guix that was pulled.
Clément
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* Re: Updating guix for root
2018-08-28 12:47 Updating guix for root Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-28 16:45 ` Clément Lassieur
@ 2018-08-28 19:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-09-01 14:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2018-08-28 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Konrad Hinsen; +Cc: help-guix
Hi Konrad,
> However, the systemd service still launches the daemon from
> /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/bin/guix-daemon. So if I
> uninstall the package "guix" for the root account (see
> https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-guix@gnu.org/msg09793.html), I will
> probably remove the guix-daemon that is used on system startup.
You are right that this is a problem. Our instructions for the binary
installation method say that this binary method works because it comes
with a pre-populated profile for the root user.
I believe we should revise these instructions, so that they take into
account the new behaviour of “guix pull”.
What do others think?
--
Ricardo
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* Re: Updating guix for root
2018-08-28 16:45 ` Clément Lassieur
@ 2018-08-30 15:02 ` Konrad Hinsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Konrad Hinsen @ 2018-08-30 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Clément Lassieur, Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: help-guix
Hi Clément and Ricardo,
Thanks for your replies!
I conclude from them that there is no clear recommendation yet for
dealing with this situation, so for the meantime I applied
>> 1) update /etc/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service
>> to point to the current daemon? If so, is
>> /root/.config/guix/current/bin/guix-daemon
>> the right (stable) path to use?
I prefer to point to /root rather then to my $HOME which is less
reliable for reasons completely unrelated to Guix (it's on a zfs volume
shared with macOS).
So far (i.e. for about a day) this seems to work fine!
Thanks again,
Konrad.]
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* Re: Updating guix for root
2018-08-28 19:25 ` Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2018-09-01 14:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-09-01 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: help-guix
Hello,
Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:
>> However, the systemd service still launches the daemon from
>> /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/bin/guix-daemon. So if I
>> uninstall the package "guix" for the root account (see
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-guix@gnu.org/msg09793.html), I will
>> probably remove the guix-daemon that is used on system startup.
>
> You are right that this is a problem. Our instructions for the binary
> installation method say that this binary method works because it comes
> with a pre-populated profile for the root user.
>
> I believe we should revise these instructions, so that they take into
> account the new behaviour of “guix pull”.
Perhaps we could somehow provide a profile that would have to be linked
to ~/.config/guix/current?
The ~root/.guix-profile that comes with the binary tarball has the
advantage of providing ‘glibc-utf8-locales’ and the corresponding
‘GUIX_LOCPATH’. It would be nice to keep it somehow.
That requires some thought…
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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