Re: Guix package manager installed

[Gottfried <gottfried@posteo.de>]

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Hi Steve,

thanks for your endeavouring.

I am sorry, I made a mistake.

I worked at the laptop with Guix system and tried:
sudo systemctl status guix-daemon.service
and it didn't work.

Today I tried it with the other laptop with Trisquel and Guix Package 
Manager installed and it worked of course.

2.

> The manual is trying to explain that you use the root user to update 
>>>> the guix daemon itself. So you do this:
>>>>
>>>>    sudo -i pull guix
>>>>    sudo systemctl restart guix-daemon.service

I did: sudo -i to log in as root
than: "pull guix"
but this doesn't work.
Probably you meant: "guix pull"


Kind regards

Gottfried




Am 03.11.22 um 08:25 schrieb Steve George:
> Hi Gottfried,
> 
> In an earlier email you said you're running Trisequel: so you have Guix 
> installed as a package manager on top of it.
> 
> That means when you installed Guix package manager your distributions 
> 'service manager' was used to install the Guix daemon.
> 
> As Trisequel is an Ubuntu derivative [0] I assumed it was running 
> Systemd to manage services. Systemd uses the systemctl command: so you 
> should be able to run that command as root.
> 
> I don't know enough about Trisequel to help you figure out which service 
> manager you're running. You'll need to ask on the Trisequel forums for 
> help on which service manager you have.
> 
> You can try doing some research on service managers and systemd - the 
> Arch Wiki has good links [1]
> 
> Best of luck!
> 
> 
> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trisquel
> [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Init#Service_managers and 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/11/2022 19:59, Gottfried wrote:
>>   Hi Steve,
>>
>> thanks for explanation
>> I am hacking on the basics.
>>
>>
>> I tried:
>>
>> sudo systemctl status guix-daemon.service
>>
>> but it said:
>>
>> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ sudo systemctl status guix-daemon.service
>> Password:
>> sudo: systemctl: command not found
>>
>> systemctl ?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Gottfried
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 02.11.22 um 08:53 schrieb Steve George:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The key concept to understand is that Guix runs a build daemon and 
>>> package database (/gnu/store) on the machine which multiple 'normal' 
>>> users can use. You can see it with:
>>>
>>>    sudo systemctl status guix-daemon.service
>>>
>>> The manual is trying to explain that you use the root user to update 
>>> the guix daemon itself. So you do this:
>>>
>>>    sudo -i pull guix
>>>    sudo systemctl restart guix-daemon.service
>>>
>>> The second step is that for each of your normal users, you then use 
>>> guix. For example, to update guix for my main user and to install a 
>>> package:
>>>
>>>    # open a normal terminal
>>>    $ guix pull
>>>    $ guix upgrade
>>>    $ guix install tmux
>>>
>>> If you inspect the guix-daemon service the log will show your user 
>>> connecting to the service and the guix-daemon handling the actions 
>>> (e.g. download the software):
>>>
>>>    sudo systemctl status guix-daemon.service
>>>
>>> If you had multiple users then each individual user would do guix 
>>> pull to update their definitions of what applications/versions are 
>>> available. Each user has their own record (called a profile) of which 
>>> applications they've installed.
>>>
>>> The advantage of using the single daemon, is that if multiple users 
>>> installed a program (e.g. tmux) then it would only be downloaded once.
>>>
>>> Unless you use your root user regularly you don't need to install 
>>> applications as the root user. I personally only run a small number 
>>> of commands as root so I don't install any Guix software as root.
>>>
>>> Hope that makes it easier to understand!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/10/2022 21:57, Gottfried wrote:
>>>> Hi Guixers,
>>>>
>>>> I am very thankful for all the Guixers who worked and are working 
>>>> for Guix, also for the manual...
>>>>
>>>> because against all hope I was able to install the Guix package 
>>>> manager on another laptop on top of Trisquel on the basis of the 
>>>> manual.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering myself that I was able to understand the manual and 
>>>> step by step I did what it said.
>>>> Even sometimes there were messages of failures but at the end 
>>>> everything worked. (I had to look up for solutions  on the web 
>>>> several times, but at the end it was successful)
>>>>
>>>> 1.  As far as I understand it I have to do
>>>>
>>>> guix pull
>>>>
>>>> and a
>>>>
>>>> guix package -u
>>>>
>>>> but no
>>>>
>>>> sudo guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm
>>>>
>>>> because there is no /etc/config.scm file
>>>>
>>>> Is that right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where is the relevant file for the guix package manager I installed?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Do I regularly have to do a "sudo guix pull" for root?
>>>>
>>>> or is it enough that I did it once for setting up guix?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Gottfried
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 




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