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[73.125.89.242]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c2sm6673400qkd.57.2021.08.02.14.38.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Aug 2021 14:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: No ethernet service during install To: help-guix@gnu.org References: <20210801143137.ha5btqqjxzbq2ywb@robby-Ryzen-RX-PC.localdomain> <20210801162746.52ejq6cmvvukhw2b@pelzflorian.localdomain> <20210801192725.v7hm4mky7ah35luf@robby-Ryzen-RX-PC.localdomain> <947ccfaa-c844-41fa-a138-173c7ae1a928@www.fastmail.com> <20210802010631.yzaefdakduqzaokn@robby-Ryzen-RX-PC.localdomain> From: Philip McGrath Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:38:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: neutral client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::829; envelope-from=philip@philipmcgrath.com; helo=mail-qt1-x829.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 17:56:48 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1627941633; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=F+ShAW2ds0OcaMLLUpJULeYKMsrzmjQACI6SHeJ8Qp0=; b=sgZvcR8DgNHnCnKNASW4yO0xl9aPC5oalRRqoxICb5vA020t48DrNG2kpInQvG7SgrZSjm XVOWkR8F0gHOb/+RioWtsE9J+Zu8EyyAPGuaKyNvQLw+Z+8SsJHIHIAK2jC1B/vgTvgl89 /nJQ9qDg/3cASJQZxgKAs52Z8pAE/fXt79KxVnoa5cnPK8w/RMBESIG8v8FEEvqk8jQW7/ 7YXdvz2T42KEp0RWctYyqPNcYHWKOZkoNv0+Fc+uy5OSaS2VxhHDElu2bMlVHuu7qcbX99 tNQJl/ylI2xiBKcEiVVP5sVUmyk4uziXpKRCLhiHsi+Ur50Inxx2qGO6Eumalw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1627941633; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Eo/MapUG7TZ1Xn7dtUL37104szwYaggNTD3oZtG83eaV2/L1snuYpKD4DlPyaXhXEP+2vp OkwRyP9bEIPpYApSUbvuO2Vg4RnBDBBd1cKCvd4cOu1iF9eBas2Db6cuZwNnQZkphK7Zsi 80G+ca5B4IUpvL/ckJv6THjNiP0W+gsZ2lVI6hQOU/JVdjfaTKTCpvjqSCpsH6cKwew7t0 /+4j3e/8dHNIcV++Ym8gDHantcmUep75pV47h5qV7NZIvCfsWyqgdFa9bU+tMLosOFFm6w 8x99kreY0cnueltJn+rtaPeP3dxatYSW5g32L1Jk+V3/FQQ7UadWiwjbgVyfdw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=google header.b=QtfZBHlY; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=google header.b=QtfZBHlY; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 576FFB4E1 X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 1UGC7sR1ubYY On 8/2/21 11:15 AM, Leo Famulari wrote:> I believe this is the Linux configuration option / driver: > > https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/BNX2.html > > However, since it appears that this driver is not free software, > linux-libre will have disabled it and it won't be supported within GNU > Guix. To be unambiguous, GNU Guix as a project, on principle,[1][2] does not support or recommend non-free software. By those same principles, since `guix` itself is free software, you have "the freedom to run the program as [you] wish, for any purpose."[1] In that sense, Guix "supports" any software you instruct it to install: it does not attempt any technical measures to second-guess your decision. Perhaps that should be obvious, but of course there are some systems which do restrict their users from installing and running software that the system's developers have not approved. My understanding is that some people do use Guix to install non-free software: I'm not one of them, but I'm confident you'll find them if you go looking for them. You won't find them here, though, out of respect for the Guix project's principled decision never to recommend installing non-free software. I'm sure the outcome we'd all prefer would be to have a free driver for your ethernet card! Unfortunately I don't know anything about that. -Philip [1]: https://gnu.tools/en/documents/social-contract/ [2]: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html