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dkim=pass header.d=elenq.tech header.s=protonmail3 header.b=NEt9Ncgm; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=elenq.tech; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7266739E6E X-Spam-Score: -2.36 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 8HZvIIroQW3Z Hi, ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, August 18th, 2022 at 2:50 AM, Ben Sturmfels via wrote: > Hi Folks! >=20 > I really like the idea of Gnome Tracker - index all your files, > contacts, etc. so you can quickly search them. It just doesn't seem to > work properly, it uses a lot of resources and it's behaviour is > opaque. I'm not sure whether this is the configuration in Guix System, > or whether Tracker just isn't well designed. My hunch is that it's a > design problem. Does anyone have good/bad experience with Tracker > outside of Guix? >=20 > Specific issues: >=20 > * the tracker-miner-fs-3 process runs spontaneously consuming at least > one CPU for a few minutes (I haven't kept track of how long or how > often) >=20 > * after all this scanning, searching in Gnome Activities doesn't > display any matches for the contents of files, only the filenames - > I thought indexing the contents was the whole point >=20 > * when it's busy, tracker-miner-fs-3 seems to ignore `kill` (SIGTERM) > and needs `kill -9` (SIGKILL) to kill it >=20 > * it's not clear exactly what files Tracker is indexing - there doesn't > appear to be a log - I'd really like to be able to just `tail -f` to > see what's going on >=20 > I'd like to also understand how tracker-miner-fs-3 is started by > Gnome. It seems to start automatically and restart after some time if > killed. It doesn't seem to be listed under "Startup Applications" in > Gnome Tweak Tool. >=20 > Debugging Tracker: >=20 > After killing it with `pkill --full tracker-miner-fs-3 --echo`, I can > restart it with some debugging information using: >=20 > env TRACKER_DEBUG=3Dconfig,miner-fs-events,monitors,statistics,status /gn= u/store/[...]-tracker-miners-3.3.1/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 >=20 > This seems to show some scheduling information about the indexing, but > not exactly what it's indexing. >=20 > Regards, > Ben I experienced a very similar situation. I hate hen it happens. Every time I move a file or I rename something the t= hing starts to run and my cpu goes crazy. On the other hand, this is a recent problem, in previous versions it didn't= happen and I didn't really have more effort searching for files in nautilu= s or similar applications. For me, it's just bad. Also, I don't use GNOME directly, even if I have it installed and use most = of its apps, I run an i3 session, but tracker-miner is still running. I don't know if that helps. If I could, I'd like to remove it. Is it possible? Thanks, Ekaitz