Choose devices according to linux-libre code

Choose devices according to linux-libre code

[znavko]

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Hello, Guix Help!

As I've got here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html>
some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free software drivers. It is so bad. 

I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?

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Re: Choose devices according to linux-libre code

[znavko]

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I use Lenovo G50-30 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g50-30 <https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g50-30/>

But when I will choose new PC it will be interesting to know.

28. Oct 2018 21:45 by znavko@tutanota.com <mailto:znavko@tutanota.com>:


> Hello, Guix Help!
>
> As I've got here > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html>
> some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free software drivers. It is so bad. 
>
> I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?
>

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Re: bug#33190: Choose devices according to linux-libre code

[swedebugia]

Hi


On 2018-10-28 19:45, znavko@tutanota.com wrote:
> As I've got here 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html
> some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free 
> software drivers. It is so bad.
>
> I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper 
> support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how 
> to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?
Yes. See https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en

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Swedebugia

Re: Choose devices according to linux-libre code

[Gary Johnson]

My laptop is a ThinkPenguin. All of their laptops and desktops are built
specifically to support the linux-libre kernel and not need any
proprietary drivers or firmware. Check them out here:

https://thinkpenguin.com

Happy hacking,
  Gary

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>    1. Touchpad tap (znavko@tutanota.com)
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> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:40:40 +0100 (CET)
> From: <znavko@tutanota.com>
> To: Help Guix <help-guix@gnu.org>, Bug Guix <bug-guix@gnu.org>
> Subject: Touchpad tap
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> Hello, Guix Help! I am not able to use tap on my touchpad. Scroll is working, mouse motion is working, left and right buttons are working, but tap and double click are not working on my touchpad.
>
> As described in the Internet need to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-synaptics.conf. 
> But GuixSD has own filesystem structure, so there is no /etc/X11.
>
> Here it is configuration file xorg.scm: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/xorg.scm?id=v0.15.0-2564-g38a2f5eaf#n2564 <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/xorg.scm?id=v0.15.0-2564-g38a2f5eaf#n2564>
>
> I assume xorg configurations ought to be done. Please, how to write my config.scm?
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> Hello, Guix Help!
>
> As I've got here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html>
> some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free software drivers. It is so bad. 
>
> I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?
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> Subject: Re: Choose devices according to linux-libre code
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> I use Lenovo G50-30 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g50-30 <https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g50-30/>
>
> But when I will choose new PC it will be interesting to know.
>
> 28. Oct 2018 21:45 by znavko@tutanota.com <mailto:znavko@tutanota.com>:
>
>
>> Hello, Guix Help!
>>
>> As I've got here > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html>
>> some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free software drivers. It is so bad. 
>>
>> I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?
>>
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> From: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
> To: znavko@tutanota.com
> Cc: Help Guix <help-guix@gnu.org>, Bug Guix <bug-guix@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Touchpad tap
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> Hi!
>
> Consult the manual, "(guix) X Window".  There is an example near the end:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>           (define bepo-evdev
>             "Section \"InputClass\"
>                   Identifier \"evdev keyboard catchall\"
>                   Driver \"evdev\"
>                   MatchIsKeyboard \"on\"
>                   Option \"xkb_layout\" \"fr\"
>                   Option \"xkb_variant\" \"bepo\"
>           EndSection")
>
>           (operating-system
>             ...
>             (services
>               (modify-services %desktop-services
>                 (slim-service-type config =>
>                   (slim-configuration
>                     (inherit config)
>                     (startx (xorg-start-command
>                              #:configuration-file
>                              (xorg-configuration-file
>                                #:extra-config
>                                (list bepo-evdev)))))))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> The above example only details keyboard configuration.  For your trackpad, have
> a look at libinput's manpage.
> Also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput may give you a good coverage
> of the topic.

Re: bug#33190: Choose devices according to linux-libre code

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello,

<znavko@tutanota.com> skribis:

> As I've got here
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html
> some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free
> software drivers. It is so bad.
>
> I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper
> support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how
> to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?

The manual gives a couple of hints:

  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Hardware-Considerations.html

The problem is of course not specific to GuixSD, that’s why the manual
refers to H-Node, but there are probably other similar resources out
there.

HTH,
Ludo’.

Re: bug#33190: Choose devices according to linux-libre code

[David Larsson]

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Here's a list of places where you can get hardware that should be
compatible:
   * [[https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200|Libiquiti]]
   * [[https://minifree.org/|Minifree]]
   * [[https://tehnoetic.com/|Tehnoetic]]
   * [[https://store.vikings.net/|Vikings]]
   * [[https://puri.sm/products/|Purism]]

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HTH
David Larsson

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

> Hello,
>
> <znavko@tutanota.com> skribis:
>
>> As I've got here
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-10/msg00083.html
>> some devices cannot work without linux-firmware, requiring non-free
>> software drivers. It is so bad.
>>
>> I believe the issue can be solved by choosing devices that have proper
>> support by linux-libre code. So how to do this? Is there any info how
>> to choose devices working nice on linux-libre?
>
> The manual gives a couple of hints:
>
>  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Hardware-Considerations.html
>
> The problem is of course not specific to GuixSD, that’s why the manual
> refers to H-Node, but there are probably other similar resources out
> there.
>
> HTH,
> Ludo’.
>
>
>