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Roesch" Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 10:59:29 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: System-wide config To: Felix Lechner Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::232; envelope-from=etienne.roesch@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x232.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 05:14:26 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DF13A49A51 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.84 X-Spam-Score: 2.84 X-TUID: +ZIoJwzGWdAN Hi! Thanks! I just realised I missed the cafe guix from 2w ago about specifically that topic (https://hpc.guix.info/events/2022/caf=C3=A9-guix/), will the slides = be made available at some point? Who was giving the talk? Etienne On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 10:28=E2=80=AFPM Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi Etienne, > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 5:38=E2=80=AFAM Etienne B. Roesch > wrote: > > > > I am working my way through our IT department to convince them to > provide guix as a > > service to our researchers. > > Congratulations! You should find some like-minded folks here. > > > Specifically, we provide vms as a service and we also have a shared > slurm resource. > > One question I haven=E2=80=99t managed to answer fully is about system-= wide > configurations. > > We currently use puppet to pull configs on the fly and various scripts > to turn on or off > > services. > > I use neither puppet, slurm or a lot of VMs and am therefore not a > good person to address your questions. I hope someone else steps up to > help you out. > > > What is the recommended way to do this with guix system? > > I am not sure it's possible to combine Guix System with such a setup. > > > Does guix system play nicely with packages installed outside of guix? > > Guix System will tolerate static third-party binaries that rely solely > on system calls. Providing prerequisites to scripts or dynamically > linked third-party software, however, may be a challenge. > > Most Guix packaging replaces paths to prerequisites by absolute paths > into our store. It happens when packages are built. There are ways to > fake a standard Linux file system hierarchy, but I have not used it. > > > The alternative of simply using guix on a host debian is appealing, of > course. > > I would start with that. > > You will lose out on some benefits in the beginning, but the goodwill > you will swiftly earn with your IT department may allow you to switch > to Guix System later. Guix System is an IT administrator's dream. Just > make sure they see the "roll-back" features at some point. > > Please have a good week also, and thank you for promoting Guix! > > Kind regards > Felix >