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On 25/12/2022 07:41, Trev wrote: > Paul Jewell via writes: > >> Good morning Guix, >> >> I have a working stumpwm config which I use on my desktop gentoo >> installation, and I want to use the same configuration file under guix. >> Unfortunately I run into a problem as when stumpwm starts, it complains >> it can't find package "ql". Quicklisp is installed in my user home >> directory, but this is clearly not being seen by stumpwm. I also note >> that packages I can install through quicklisp are also packaged in guix >> (e.g. alexandria). When I start sbcl in a terminal, everything works as >> expected, and quicklisp is seen. >> >> This leads me to some questions: >> >> * How do I configure stumpwm on my system so it looks in my home >> directory, and observes my .sbclrc file when starting? >> * What is the guix recommended way for working with lisp packages? >> Should I avoid using quicklisp, and instead use the provided >> packages in guix? I am unable to find any documentation (either >> official or blog posts etc) explaining this. >> >> Many thanks! > I have no experience with quicklisp and am new to Common Lisp in > general, but I do use guix and am getting happier with every hack I make > on stumpwm and I can tell you what has worked for me: > > 1. Use the supported asdf system that Guix uses to package lisp programs > and extensions. > > 2. Install your stumpwm, repl & extensions in the same profile, be that > profile your system or your home/user space. This helps a sbcl find I have now gone down this path, and nearly everything is working as expected. The only problem I am tripping up with is sbcl-slime-swank is trying to (require 'sb-cltl2) and failing, even though I have added sbcl-trivial-cltl2 to my system configuration. It seems I am not the only person who has tripped over this issue, although the previous message thread [1] didn't link the problem to sbcl-slime-swank. When I comment out the code in my configuration which adds swank, I am up and running. This is what I have included in my system configuration: "stumpwm" "sbcl-cl-ppcre" "sbcl-trivial-cltl2" "sbcl-alexandria" "sbcl-clx-xembed" "sbcl-clx-truetype" "sbcl-stumpwm-ttf-fonts" "sbcl-stumpwm-swm-gaps" "sbcl-stumpwm-stumptray" "sbcl-slime-swank" although having looked in the source for the package definition for stumpwm, some of these are superfluous. Do you use sbcl-slime-swank in your configuration, and if so, did you come across this problem with cltl2? [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/help-guix@gnu.org/msg13498.html