From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id EIUqJ/ahzl8GLgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 21:43:18 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id eFkBI/ahzl9oMQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 21:43:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C67F9402A9 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmOHs-0004pO-Nh for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:43:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55696) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmOHJ-0004p1-DR for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:42:41 -0500 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com ([66.39.4.99]:61647) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmOHA-0001D0-Qh for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:42:40 -0500 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02C4730AF for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.78.70] (pw126166005057.31.panda-world.ne.jp [126.166.5.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2606173086 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:42:31 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Yasuaki Kudo Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 06:42:27 +0900 Subject: Where are suggestions or open discussions of Guix at large made? Message-Id: <9BAE85DD-E067-4649-AAAC-BDAFF9D42750@yasuaki.com> To: help-guix X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) Received-SPF: none client-ip=66.39.4.99; envelope-from=yasu@yasuaki.com; helo=mail1.g12.pair.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.80 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1C67F9402A9 X-Spam-Score: -0.80 X-Migadu-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu X-TUID: 3wB50eZNIzyT Hello! I wonder which mailing list (or anything else) is the best for open-ended Gu= ix discussions. I think Guix has a huge potential and it a needs a downgraded version (akin t= o how Ubuntu makes a worse version of Debian) so that more people can use it= . As it stands, by default, Guix doesn't have: * Regular, unpatched Linux with unaccountable black magic firmware code=20 * Polluted web browsers like Google Chrome * Visual Studio Code that probably has similar issues as Google Chrome? * and on and on... The first is one of the most serious problems because computers with AMD gra= phics cards won't even boot without it? (The installer may, but once instal= led, it seems to halt during boot, even when desktop services are turned off= ?) I have heard of PantherX but I wonder if anyone is thinking about "vernacula= r" dirty Guix-derivative with all sorts of horrible compromises... =F0=9F=98= =84 Cheers, Yasu