updating the daemon on Debian 11

updating the daemon on Debian 11

[Adriano Peluso]

I learned that in Debian 11 one can install Guix through apt

What about updating the daemon ?

What's the procedure for a Guix installed through apt ?

And what's the procedure for updating a user profile ?

Thanks

Re: updating the daemon on Debian 11

[jbranso]

September 9, 2021 12:47 PM, "Adriano Peluso" <randomlooser@riseup.net> wrote:

> I learned that in Debian 11 one can install Guix through apt
> 
> What about updating the daemon ?

guix pull  (I think ?)
 
> What's the procedure for a Guix installed through apt ?

That's a great question.

> 
> And what's the procedure for updating a user profile ?

guix package -u

> 
> Thanks

Re: updating the daemon on Debian 11

[Vagrant Cascadian]

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On 2021-09-09, Adriano Peluso wrote:
> I learned that in Debian 11 one can install Guix through apt

  apt install guix

That *should* start the daemon, enable substitutes, create the build
users, etc. You shouldn't have to do anything manually. It will, of
course, be a relatively old version of guix (1.2 in bullseye/stable, 1.3
in unstable/experimental) but you can update guix in the typical ways...

It is pretty similar to a foreign distro install from guix's binary
releases, for the differences, see /usr/share/doc/guix/README.Debian*


> What about updating the daemon ?

The short of it is, the daemon doesn't get updated. It shouldn't need to
most of the time... If there are daemon-relevent security updates, then
you get updates via "apt update && apt upgrade".

You can of course override that and manually configure guix-daemon that
you build in, say, root's profile if you want and need some new features
in the daemon.


> What's the procedure for a Guix installed through apt ?

  apt install guix


> And what's the procedure for updating a user profile ?

Same as on any guix installation:

  guix pull
  guix upgrade


To some extent, it just provides a trust path from Debian to getting a
guix that you then update through the normal guix mechanisms...


live well,
  vagrant

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Re: updating the daemon on Debian 11

[jbranso]

September 9, 2021 2:58 PM, "Vagrant Cascadian" <vagrant@debian.org> wrote:

> On 2021-09-09, Adriano Peluso wrote:
> 
>> I learned that in Debian 11 one can install Guix through apt
> 
> apt install guix

I just found this guide:

https://ruzkuku.com/texts/debian-guix.html

> 
> That *should* start the daemon, enable substitutes, create the build
> users, etc. You shouldn't have to do anything manually. It will, of
> course, be a relatively old version of guix (1.2 in bullseye/stable, 1.3
> in unstable/experimental) but you can update guix in the typical ways...
> 
> It is pretty similar to a foreign distro install from guix's binary
> releases, for the differences, see /usr/share/doc/guix/README.Debian*
> 
>> What about updating the daemon ?
> 
> The short of it is, the daemon doesn't get updated. It shouldn't need to
> most of the time... If there are daemon-relevent security updates, then
> you get updates via "apt update && apt upgrade".
> 
> You can of course override that and manually configure guix-daemon that
> you build in, say, root's profile if you want and need some new features
> in the daemon.
> 
>> What's the procedure for a Guix installed through apt ?
> 
> apt install guix
> 
>> And what's the procedure for updating a user profile ?
> 
> Same as on any guix installation:
> 
> guix pull
> guix upgrade
> 
> To some extent, it just provides a trust path from Debian to getting a
> guix that you then update through the normal guix mechanisms...
> 
> live well,
> vagrant

Re: updating the daemon on Debian 11

[Adriano Peluso]

Il giorno gio, 09/09/2021 alle 11.54 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian ha
scritto:
> On 2021-09-09, Adriano Peluso wrote:
> > I learned that in Debian 11 one can install Guix through apt
> 
>   apt install guix
> 
> That *should* start the daemon, enable substitutes, create the build
> users, etc. You shouldn't have to do anything manually. It will, of
> course, be a relatively old version of guix (1.2 in bullseye/stable,
> 1.3
> in unstable/experimental) but you can update guix in the typical
> ways...
> 
> It is pretty similar to a foreign distro install from guix's binary
> releases, for the differences, see /usr/share/doc/guix/README.Debian*
> 
> 
> > What about updating the daemon ?
> 
> The short of it is, the daemon doesn't get updated. It shouldn't need
> to
> most of the time... If there are daemon-relevent security updates,
> then
> you get updates via "apt update && apt upgrade".

Ah ok. This clarifies a bit

Thank you

> 
> 
> > And what's the procedure for updating a user profile ?
> 
> Same as on any guix installation:
> 
>   guix pull
>   guix upgrade
> 
> 
> To some extent, it just provides a trust path from Debian to getting
> a
> guix that you then update through the normal guix mechanisms...

I see

Thanks again