From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id QKJ8AKtwvF84fgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:32:11 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id cGAGOKpwvF/kTwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:32:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74E9B94043B for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60082 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khO7j-0005z1-BS for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 21:32:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khO7a-0005yr-0P for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 21:31:58 -0500 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:29625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khO7V-0000iJ-93 for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 21:31:57 -0500 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 3703a602; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:31:48 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h= mime-version:date:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from :message-id:subject:to:in-reply-to:references; s=20190914; bh=3M 8KXS1XGYv+8DN3Z0KTeG0cTqbp/4i3ztKtxxDChik=; b=Xw5B9tJD2TSRJD+KDC d9wNlidFQtQTkcboGvhS9VjY9X4jHLkEWJqX4Pxe33WKtNOGwTQaF+GCANXljdMn MnKj/p9bY1LDKX5EAO2XuJ0MYreLixtcdkenqmLzcvr3uARxJHjLiuoRZveHxLRn qSamBDZ1Wc8FCEX2UZg5vFoO28sSqSPIKxYerDLs11aQiEzIp0AHucj3gCswMQ0A /St2Sf9FcvGEO3S2mVpTXmKSpYtnBg+OYyApgqau+fOZobEvBypjUca2naxiVZCf 8oBgGTEV041JU3UBxLESEsi4FrvyPlZS9vdRVdCtqpNuBz7RatKCaEhFB5uwN3Ln DfWQ== Received: from smtp1.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.11]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9c34aef0; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:31:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 30075e2b; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:31:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 8058e139 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:31:47 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:31:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: RainLoop/1.14.0a From: jbranso@dismail.de Message-ID: <94fa6e136ac69235e6d3ddbefb1e068a@dismail.de> Subject: Re: Can Guix support Zen 2/AMD Ryzen? To: "Jesse Gibbons" , help-guix@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <1f577837-099c-e2ed-4c8d-45d050b40671@gmail.com> References: <1f577837-099c-e2ed-4c8d-45d050b40671@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; envelope-from=jbranso@dismail.de; helo=mx1.dismail.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=Xw5B9tJD; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.71 X-TUID: W74kDNuxzhh+ I am kind of shooting from the hip here, others may be more knowledgeable= than me, but here is my two cents.=0A=0AAs a general rule, any "brand ne= w hardware" (except server grade hardware and Intel hardware) generally n= eeds 3-6+ months before it has good Linux support. So you may run into i= ssues using the latest and greatest thing.=0A=0AIf you want a good GPU, t= hen you might check out this: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dne= ws_item&px=3DNouveau-K2020-Low-End-Card It's a $50 graphics card that w= orks with the libre nvidia driver (nouveau). I think you have to manuall= y set the clock frequency though...All AMD graphics cards are virtually u= seless on the Linux libre kernel. AMD has proprietary firmware, which Li= nux libre disables. Nvidia is as bad. I think the integrated graphics f= rom Intel works fairly well with Linux libre.=0A=0AI've also run into tha= t booting issue. I think there is a way to disable fancy graphics render= ing during the installer, which is what I had to do, to get guix to run o= n my AMD APU a few years ago. Maybe someone here can point out how to do= that, because I'm blanking on the specifics. =0A=0AIf you are trying to= game on Linux libre, you will probably run into some issues. :(=0A=0ANo= vember 23, 2020 4:38 PM, "Jesse Gibbons" wrote:= =0A=0A> Hi guix,=0A> I built a guix image for a hardware enthusiast frien= d to try on his computers, in part to see how=0A> well/completely his mor= e modern hardware would run guix and if it would be worth commissioning h= im=0A> to build me a computer. It successfully booted, but the screens tu= rned blank and didn't show gdm.=0A> My friend tried this twice, and the s= ame thing happened. He tried ctrl+alt+f{1..6} and didn't see=0A> anything= (though he has a weird keyboard that requires him to hold a modifier key= to enter any=0A> function key). He suggested it might be because his com= puter has a Ryzen CPU with the Zen 2=0A> Architecture, which he knows mig= ht need to work around. Since it booted fine, I think it might be=0A> mor= e related to his Nvidia GPU. Is there anything I can do, without resortin= g to proprietary=0A> solutions, to make a guix image with a desktop at le= ast displays with his hardware?=0A> -Jesse