From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id yOtOGzeCyl6DCwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 14:18:31 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 2MkKFzeCyl6WGQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 14:18:31 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E43409403EC for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 14:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40404 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcrSP-0002jw-Gf for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 10:18:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcr6P-0001se-BD for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 09:55:45 -0400 Received: from a.siauliai.hyperbola.info ([2a02:e00:ffe7:6::1]:42928 helo=smtp.hyperbola.info) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jcr6N-0001ax-9X for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 24 May 2020 09:55:44 -0400 Received: by smtp.hyperbola.info (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id fa62f57e (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) auth=yes user=adfeno for ; Sun, 24 May 2020 13:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Vanilla Firefox recipe? To: help-guix@gnu.org References: <87v9l2thi5.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87y2pyfc3d.fsf@yamatai> <20200512192319.GA918@E5400> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: <9077d3bf-1f83-6e08-341d-7f7be5387f42@hyperbola.info> Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 10:54:53 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200512192319.GA918@E5400> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h8KG42svxGIDY0UUpEhIrJGJO7Ea0enod" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:e00:ffe7:6::1; envelope-from=adfeno@hyperbola.info; helo=smtp.hyperbola.info X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_FAIL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 May 2020 10:18:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" Reply-to: Adonay Felipe Nogueira From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira via X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.61 X-TUID: GWmkJaK0yczx This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --h8KG42svxGIDY0UUpEhIrJGJO7Ea0enod Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8e62X9G7HJ3wu52xmBgNHwtM1knGrkkl3"; protected-headers="v1" From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira To: help-guix@gnu.org Message-ID: <9077d3bf-1f83-6e08-341d-7f7be5387f42@hyperbola.info> Subject: Re: Vanilla Firefox recipe? References: <87v9l2thi5.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87y2pyfc3d.fsf@yamatai> <20200512192319.GA918@E5400> In-Reply-To: <20200512192319.GA918@E5400> --8e62X9G7HJ3wu52xmBgNHwtM1knGrkkl3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I came late to this issue, but I think this should have been posted on development mailing list. It's not good if we use the general help list to foster non-free software like Firefox or those which are third-party package managers with no default repository explicitly commited to following the GNU FSDG. Furthermore, to ease the sides of both the thread starter and the community, I'm taking a simplification in that I'm considering the use of such non-free software for purpose of developing or improving a free replacement. That means I'm not discussing the merit of whether the question should or shouldn't have been answered the way it was. One must be remind though, that the GNU FSDG isn't only about the packages distributed (software, documentation, text fonts, etc), but also about the community, and this is one of the things that keep Debian out of the list of free system distributions. Em 12/05/2020 16:23, Efraim Flashner escreveu: > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:31:02PM +0200, Guillaume Le Vaillant wrote: >> >> Christopher Lemmer Webber skribis: >> >>> Anyone have a package definition (or channel) for a recent vanilla >>> firefox? >>> >>> I understand the decision to prefer distributing Icecat instead in Gu= ix >>> proper, but I need a more recent version of things... I suspect other= s >>> sometimes do too. I have a feeling at least someone in the community= >>> has written such a definition... would you mind sharing? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> - Chris >> >> Hi, >> >> There is a channel at >> https://forge.monarch-pass.net/warrah/warrah-nonfsdg with a package >> definition for Firefox 74.0.1. I haven't tested it though. >=20 > Other options include using the now official flatpak copy of firefox. 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