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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 21:02:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8B51F611-7A9B-490C-BB49-632D402D2247@gnu.support> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <h84gxs31.321942@gmail.com>



On October 10, 2019 8:29:06 PM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
>> How are you?
>
>Ehm...  Fine.  What is the occasion to ask?

We are then from different cultures simply. At my side it is always used similarly as hand shaking.

>> I [] see absolutely no problem there.
>
>I’m afraid, Dr. Stallman would see.

My protest is not to align all my thoughts with Dr. Stallman, my protest is that defamation and harassment of RMS is taking place on Guix.GNU.org website.

It is the code of good conduct of Guix itself where they promised harass-free space with respect to other people's opinions. See: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/CODE-OF-CONDUCT

Writing policies while abusing them themselves is hypocrisy and this time it is bad enough that caused international online protests.

>> What is point in backstabbing of RMS? I asked and never got answers
>but FUD.
>
>To get rid of him, of course.  Why to ask for obvious answer?

Well I don't see it that way. I see it as a hostile fact-less thought police punishing and degrading GNU, Guix, FSF and RMS for the thought crime. See the book 1984

>Many of your letters contain a footer with a call for lead developers
>of Guix, Guile and GnuPG to leave GNU. 

Exactly. That is my opinion. If myself cannot agree with my own community's published  coffee of conduct and the founder and if I am to abuse the platform given to me by founder and his work to abuse his image and defame him, then I would never do that, I would step down.

Reason that they don't have guts is all the comfort they got from FSF and GNU which is, was and is being caused by RMS.

Comfort like this https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2018/gnu-guix-receives-donation-from-the-handshake-project/ is hard to resist to get their things straight.

>> They have no respect for RMS.
>
>I hope, that you have, though.  And thus will stop to tear down the
>project he founded.

I have never protested against the GNU project as in itself it cannot cause actions. My protest is not against Ludovic Courtès's opinion neither their free speech, despite all of their efforts to silence every protestors' voice. See their logs for evidences of the plot.

My protest is against defamation of founder of the GNU project and on the GNU project's domain!

If Ludovic Courtès would publish it on his website I could probably comment on his own website. But he did not. By the way I did not find one mention of Dr. Stallman on his pages. Think about that and proper crediting.

Ludovic Courtès published it on Guix website hosted on GNU domain. I am objecting to that. And I am not alone, there are already hundreds supporting comments from all over the world, podcast and defenses, I am not alone thinker and please don't turn my words to something what I have not stated. Same strategy was used to defame Stallman. And same was used by Ludovic Courtès on their disrespectful statement.

Jean 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-10 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1c9dc59c-0594-6921-73e8-b173e558b5c3@vapaa.xyz>
2019-10-10  2:37   ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Jean Louis
2019-10-10 11:39     ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-10 12:14       ` Jean Louis
     [not found]       ` <A1FC0648-04C9-4125-90E5-A4ED6E69128E@gnu.support>
2019-10-10 12:39         ` Dmitry Alexandrov
     [not found]         ` <5zkw22sb.321942@gmail.com>
2019-10-10 17:48           ` Jean Louis
     [not found]           ` <32731221-C09D-4E6B-8642-1600A5D56E64@gnu.support>
2019-10-10 20:29             ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-10-10 21:02               ` Jean Louis [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <12e09212-a64a-8e92-da5b-e2702e62f4d0@ninthfloor.org>
     [not found]                   ` <73a57e69-4c38-67fc-31f5-32424415fcb1@vapaa.xyz>
     [not found]                     ` <c9b470fe-eafe-35d1-7e43-82f9f240298e@ninthfloor.org>
2019-10-12  9:19                       ` Jean Louis
2019-10-13 13:05                         ` Kete via Discussions about the development of the GNU system
2019-10-13 23:43                           ` Alexandre François Garreau
2019-10-10 16:44     ` ng0
2019-10-10 22:23       ` Reminder to remain civil Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-12  4:19         ` Jens Mølgaard
2019-10-12  8:32           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-13 19:54             ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2019-10-13 20:07               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-13 20:18                 ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2019-10-14  7:41                   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-14 18:26                     ` quiliro
2019-10-14 19:52                       ` Tonton
2019-10-15  0:01                         ` ison
2019-10-15  2:27                           ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2019-10-15  3:08                         ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2019-10-15  4:44                     ` Quiliro Ordóñez
2019-10-11 15:14       ` Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Ruben Safir
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     [not found]     ` <4828739.2SfjHLgCXR@pc-713>
2019-10-12 11:37       ` Jean Louis

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