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In-reply-to: <47774701-8E8E-4185-9DB9-7E5D7F91ACD2@yasuaki.com> Message-ID: <87zgg5p6yv.fsf@beadling.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 21:50:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62c; envelope-from=phil@beadling.co.uk; helo=mail-ej1-x62c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1660596649; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=n8tS75wLAg/Dkw0DU91bjCMnKT8AllTGl54Ak3G+rBg=; b=nZzzMDEjeWhq5Fyi/Q3+6CTrsrnFgFjaY4dXkf9jGgNUWrbNLcWGeWpvNCdI6Yr3vBEoPb i9JivjQm2LlYtRJXxWMF3vhubGcwPg/ZZcKbvhX4yZN3Y125/3ynPJ8mx91opVhHbKvOmf JM187qwaC2OhvJCwdVkJYjsEwvAVfjN2YIRHqZwTgxDnFlRypROuEeqwgR5R0eEUmJ9z8b hLj4NN69odERZZjzA29LsH19RUr/aItupdrUAi9eSpbJ55LNR1awMqO2qt2KMeMK6ABHVO 1uOAss3M5KYNCtXN9a676gbgB409Sgh+0bBzxQGBl/pm9bTLjy18DxFHnQRxjA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1660596649; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=qwxidfp3ukeRWpkwTh5HMqOoZOmiRixczIAO+Si/qDDB7FYlpRaW+o9kfvypfakKkDNJZA 8VGuVS2CvUYUIjnShj0v1w1FqCvoc8Ddi/3DJDzWtrU+aboJ+k/jArA3cfByoVfOK843Ft 6qgcxoEM2/kFbpdaw5vza7kES2s0HvdVo1/S+yoTz85hRddW35B+0djwLH8pmMBxrcFeLY o34eSeU+TsKpuFbPBY0cFLFA4605JdklEO9KXp9P5ecfNRb5k4nKM3Eercp24+8o5GM1K3 Vafa45bSIocsjG5AjRiqQgj3my3X+B+xhr/SfgpB2iwOixAIWiy2B8o9Z15/Qg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=beadling-co-uk.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=fQjmXYDT; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.86 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=beadling-co-uk.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b=fQjmXYDT; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4AF122C3BF X-Spam-Score: -0.86 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: nso70MhaL2h3 Yasuaki Kudo writes: > What you wrote makes so much sense and sounds very familiar because I had similar discussions with my partners at our worker coop! > > Sometime soon perhaps we can discuss in a video chat or something? Sure - keep us in the loop. > We would like to do this alongside our regular paid software development for existing clients. Once we have acquired enough scripts, knowhow and the enthusiasts among our colleagues, we can spin it off and sell it as a service/consultation! (software will stay as Libre and Free - enterprise users would not be interested otherwise ) Where I work Guix is a tool we use in IT, rather than part of the product we package/sell. This means I hope much of what we have learned in terms of extending and using Guix will end-up open and freely available over time - some in Guix itself. I don't see us offering services or consultation in Guix as we're not a pure IT company. However, I am interested in seeing Guix and Guix services gaining a foothold in the commercial space, and exchanging ideas around this - as well as growing it in academia too.