From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id oPVaN5qYvV+2VQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:34:50 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id QKQaM5qYvV8+OAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:34:50 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5B09940482 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:41894 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khhpf-0004aZ-Nc for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 18:34:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khhpE-0004aQ-Jg for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 18:34:20 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:52833) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khhpC-00047Z-HK for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 18:34:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1606260855; bh=WpO7atkXXnJv0WyDhsFCnhf1xNaQc4rm/rITM87xc/c=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date; b=S5slpQnkrgQepjIhMYAI1zfFPegcp2OHVnussGipo6vZ/+hsKWeV9xQgQ3qlGzSmY eejVrfkXPxDGDOObnJ8NY4GQfT9tXoMWXZ7xhPBh5cm2a01Ks+fJscRk06FzkIStlN E7hNvBu9BbFhP/ajTz7nZ3blLTYmKMui26g0kFSk= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from fluss ([80.136.19.238]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1McZjd-1k4nEo0Ww1-00cVUs; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 00:34:15 +0100 References: <85r1oifz56.fsf@beadling.co.uk> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" To: Phil Subject: Re: Replacing python venv - environment or profile? In-reply-to: <85r1oifz56.fsf@beadling.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 00:34:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87y2iqba88.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:V0+8OVb4beiawcwRsg8C1TFfw9Or1Oz2ZXiHdt6APKl9okt+DuR t5Tw61ptGocr61Lww9jyplQv5APXBaTPZ8vzsX5+HDaUHj2Y/GYO+RhagBYCtVGqytuOvW/ ycayNgy79nzAxSEnv76O6fWjX5Po1RVIYBDe4Ye0K+6V9Oj6u28I6tm0DTVsgxKxGwzx9od oY+UEK5Kh0ogWn6+Sx/qQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:QDBmqb8wVaA=:Apaf6FFgbh23Xv9Vfqjmtz ihwk+fRLTztKRdDkfY4LppEAcWmuUlL9yOGD8t8gqjjnulUji3HPq+ghOBKkyYu8meJqOZ9N+ 5pnyn3ANnS757OKEDPANcy6StTraYkTClVOGiXu5zm+tz4v51IauLkswUs+kJWcdnwaJzpHio YwIDcUtYgaU61lB7PBp+LHqtjOgUgrB5m7mgR1+G2E93QMs56v+V5gngWTE2J0/wSgmryr1l3 jYUrXqKHKQVX4J8y4rA/JbukQVVMKdRUlRB0xdVdUOm3YAZvy/rbSSHV8goTS2n2zVnQqd6FW tRdYPyd4kUMD/vljBcNP1NoaWpfoTrv5bHNk7S8OABkxSj3Erq8X8WB+oZd1zoAzTlEnRbnV9 ZMnzsKegxY+xM6lyoz3z3ZIEWjk5M5Bg7VgjAvpgJIUUWiSxc+nRskiPwB169I7lmkIoA/LFT 5GInznwL7MtabragBz9OAGb2LhHS90ZO7MKu+nT5Yxa1eWPNZVdEApmucDFhB8TCbcruv7IVb f2T1odDVv3E8s7UDSQIsrxQ4sZ1juJzg0askHeuOyxGcAcPxdzCQFJT/Iw+XAtbxAGqK7RuT8 bDjKfy7F+DN1p+wwtH4FwcxDrumoh5BNf7WV6bc3nay6jdA8wQ/d58cUSDppT8v1bBRD0S4CE 9UM1jrCkSmGEeqnO+Ea6HF8dsRc/u19aKJGLezMyugCUEEkBA5HDikiS9ocwhNkwU2MXXzFBu ECmy/io5TR5E5/DRLVoCVT+Vr49iCv9+jVYoTF3LgNexmIVUROfvH0fMCQi+JX89ragMdQkkV YU+OFMEm6cS6k4RAwpjC5WvF8LcESECr29sChzta/8boeq4Ttbyctgjce7ZsfPtpX6rdk418B iIorNkgbaKCPYLwly4wg== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.14; envelope-from=arne_bab@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=S5slpQnk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.81 X-TUID: LZ4Fo44sXWmI --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phil writes: > I'm new the Guix and considering adopting it as an expansion to my > current use of Python virtual environments in development and > production, to include other non-Python packages too. As far as I see it, guix environment is what you get from a virtualenv, plus a good deal more. I start more complex programs nowadays by pulling in their dependencies in a small startup file. The following is my actual command for running IntelliJ with custom libraries and the correct libstdc++: exec -a "$0" guix environment --ad-hoc openjdk@14 openjdk@14:jdk gcc-toolch= ain@10.2 -- bash -c "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/home/arne/.guix-= profile/lib:$(realpath ~/.guix-profile/lib/libsqlite3.so):/gnu/store/qj38f3= vi4q1d7z30hkpaxyajv49rwamb-gcc-10.2.0-lib/lib/:."' IDEA_JDK=3D"$(dirname $(= dirname $(realpath $(which java))))" exec -a "$0" bash -x idea-IU-193.6911.= 18/bin/idea.sh' I used the environment for something closer to your example for actual day-work to get a local environment with java 8 and documented that briefly: https://www.draketo.de/software/guix-work.html#org07ebedd # download and unpack tomcat and enter the folder, then call guix environment --ad-hoc icedtea@3.7.0 bin/startup.sh I know that this 3-liner does not look so awesome, but it is crazy how many problems it can solve :-) Best wishes, Arne =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein ohne es zu merken --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAl+9mHcQHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD61Y8D/9TvHi651PEy8ka8htkeI1TMFnhiEEmKZd3 e9O+rhi06aLOaNhUnZWuao6u8wjz4B1kxDHH2kehb7iaf3vg45fY4tAHvgNWMPH9 7xpF6v9DlpbqZr/gNRmH6sk/ox3Idnx4vdkAO3h2FGTSb+GbwFavhDYJhfSo9LfQ lxBjQfyhlYZ7eWqS+XVLkqho9E5Na/bpwQC9xazkimrHfRR2ISqbeAfNnfPmbjR5 nT8hgP2aKDOSyFlwgEce5puD188AuD4VmASwFh6QnUp4k3myDJtyHxX3aJSdft9C LAYg2VC0Wet2KTHiPKlkW38mJMg6ZDzaOl/So5svjiMErcoLL+B/f42jp+zOqXej nOAM8erEhwS7ysDE8HruZD+YNg3GkKvvSR6Yo6L1bx+0kHfzLvKxVQe9ZrDNibW6 q8Nuxp4vM2DiKWBN4HU679LpcIczdaPVOBYXVJJlXJLCfZOYI6gKp7q6CN/l9WQJ nYajGN86DcWxbsaFGHFIsuiwFVHc10awUuwEvxySwXjSeUq3z0uW93EzGPVcheMM 53/iYsi05QEj3JdF/xz8t2r6JPi+cENiWGCqntQpgB6zvcoXqpdcuxsIFB4PDB2l AeMuukO6Z8RBDGgtXp77Coqz8VD/SXv6+9wd/emXruRrYdQ0cKYADLwHpJaUMbF2 5fyHG8KV74jEBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAl+9mHcQHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSB4rA/wIitrjIxs2Eoe/18WSC0RMPDbC AwDpd/ya5mmq6mm+Q+1U/FdJ8F3g5bljqqLhG28yUfJh/HFQ5g14nqq92lHO8mgc PSqSndcKd29nnwAao3d7nletbeyeUS+ABh9/o/rbJiBCrMrfbqVYDf5xDTdYHGUz LdYniIoGAwdHIqmplQ== =pxLm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--