From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id CIW9KNCIymL0YAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:07:44 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id wNqHKNCIymJU9AAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:07:44 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF5BAF9DF for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:07:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57548 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oARyg-0001DB-0D for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:07:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oARxw-0001Ck-TP for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:06:57 -0400 Received: from sender4-of-o50.zoho.com ([136.143.188.50]:21025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oARxu-0003B3-HV for help-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:06:56 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1657440401; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=m0Q3dXLCWx+Pawr4w5YzdQf+Uwz/rXA9p5GxCWNtzpnCTvbE2sCeHEr6m3T0L98V3eziUAQvEgVLxMHGnU6UCMBjapRZYer2iihAkGW0PdpjXsp6GP5fwHxL6PKxTmHGQtwiorC+LIVI9ZDbH4Mq3YxQ3Y26/cOrpqjQzWLk5IY= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1657440401; h=Content-Type:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=uiVufY5/Qe/XQWHWFxCnnhQW67HcRQthZgI0T+bbgYE=; b=HfV8LShRjU7frnQ4Tq99OGg+Mo1JZW7kAiD2id9np5TRZnoYvaCyDMYFczeHZFQKJgCYUYDwIuPQ68SJuK7dv0obGF6A/4gPT4GjKS9Xs+cW5jmgAQgE5FoEBiObxh6JMrgx2333OyjIVz5/KuhI1bbQVnel6Gx3cvYIH9IEEIg= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1657440401; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:From:To:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:Subject:Date:Date:In-reply-to:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Reply-To; bh=uiVufY5/Qe/XQWHWFxCnnhQW67HcRQthZgI0T+bbgYE=; b=TfYq0ju+CjxcXWL1Ln+F+CKFjJ18tFr4H+eNIGt21tGkBXi7BhQtn0F88nUhNp8o tCIUrbn66YBmWA+OnY6OcfMCubZwro0oOJxJjDkiUHh0vPlqvmPCfn0kDgWLFVYxzMW ddi1H/F+DNb+BpOqkeT148h6q753RpFKzOEzhZYE= Received: from localhost (209-110-142-46.pool.kielnet.net [46.142.110.209]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1657440396929473.4314763628528; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 01:06:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <20220709205106.GB24308@gac> User-agent: mu4e 1.6.11; emacs 28.1 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: jgart Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Subject: Re: Why do we force the lazy python? Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 10:04:47 +0200 In-reply-to: <20220709205106.GB24308@gac> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Message-ID: <87y1x1xugm.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.188.50; envelope-from=rekado@elephly.net; helo=sender4-of-o50.zoho.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1657440464; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=uiVufY5/Qe/XQWHWFxCnnhQW67HcRQthZgI0T+bbgYE=; b=LbAhHowzbUikCui45Cp9v2rmBOOuv+4G3+edyh2T0MATtCWaWzMLayzjhcKfVvgbt8t3fU wZFqynrB0WNvVebeatbOci+vTABD6AxbHSczq/iARDlsyBOIbuV6VbEHUH36aZGAQP30vG PAUSSfn83yFqpmpvw7uAWCHJMoIHQWscYx9B0D3n/2I35Hl2eAY/3cLq/knpCjl9OGLX/b KI4VxwSD1PK9SahZxazE5rRQJRZtoRTmnRIvscZtzdfZXikQCu/PQUipmqgb4o7ayiS4gw iey7CnroyJTVWgx/blozh0Dfz7u98dediKu6/Qf/lBWJjxpzc+KevEGQwQ/3Wg== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1657440464; a=rsa-sha256; cv=pass; b=pbWxbKXh/dwq3QCmgPFJi5pmP6s4RrlkTVBn+4+kxQQWZN6PskEfVQR7/tYA2NmSkzJRLr R98sFcflkcgPaZnSb8NxsHulIO4IO78D4DGVBqOqVIjOPih5pBxmxMhGwadTHREIyCmOKe 8JdPw7aXh9wxHbfm/lgnVzGVS3TpQTnR1M2azE535+FlENSyl/aN1NfvQUuigX3qlTzhWv A9p+frxv+oqMftP/VZ7p23nwH9vU8Mvv7OozrmWV2w9tHcg8izB9QKxYHKQSB9dECpGapc rwk/e4tgdHK/XP+aZWSr3DJwGFYD0GnAeFS2fs4jywarun6NaOcE1b/fi/25sw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=TfYq0ju+; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.45 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=TfYq0ju+; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BF5BAF9DF X-Spam-Score: -3.45 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: w7BycLFd2M64 jgart writes: > Why do we check if python is a promise and then "force" it? See the comment in this definition: (define package-with-python2 ;; Note: delay call to 'default-python2' until after the 'arguments' field ;; of packages is accessed to avoid a circular dependency when evaluating ;; the top-level of (gnu packages python). (package-with-explicit-python (delay (default-python2)) "python-" "python2-" #:variant-property 'python2-variant)) -- Ricardo