From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 6M5RGoeO3F9UOQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:12:07 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id mBQpFoeO3F8BGwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:12:07 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B473E94042B for ; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51814 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqDg5-0006x1-IM for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 06:12:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqDFE-0005tX-RY for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:44:21 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:36995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqDFB-0005OQ-7k for help-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:44:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1608288248; bh=aojMjUW9Q0uxD1R1fskmD6pcJkYzCOxwJszuFP6EY8w=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date; b=bmru3PoA92vu+aVQ0yOT4I9KznXVeKaSags2aI5uOQKcn+zeZP5zdr/USyKbf2H/t rixoeQc41XRvsImRzpp4mo0JufrwdUkBn4CzXWVdrZS6Vy70l49o8P0CnBlhvlhTNq +JHPQ0AOfBUuZKwEZpuP4MY3uevVhZeP2bStvrhc= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from fluss ([80.136.19.158]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0ML8X7-1kqUDu3Yy9-000Opn; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:44:07 +0100 References: <87h7ov0vxl.fsf@disroot.org> <87h7ou1yxf.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <861rfxj0lx.fsf@gmail.com> <87wnxgf3hh.fsf@disroot.org> <867dpfools.fsf@gmail.com> <875z4z4v6s.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> <86h7ojmqtq.fsf@gmail.com> <8736034fsk.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" To: Carlo Zancanaro Subject: Re: Can I easily install GNU Emacs 27.1.50 via Guix? In-reply-to: <8736034fsk.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:44:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87wnxf75s9.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:dKX7hYnmXQ9jbDxN8C2c08hYf4NFngRa0RlLhxQTwcZfcKuwFoa qtcuP03QEioH2bG9PKzXbsfj9f9QRGz70sFB3fzxRP7jIDUKgWs/it0M2+43Gz5faBvLGVk j9YqNQDWj4XKpPvDBtifnUPTydfHgDps2bQUzsXhuM9LmXrFmMC9o5RsGmO0P0ZDK6rZgVL IsuWipvm/ctEOWtixnJww== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:raRp9kZpigw=:z8AV9s/PlyHEioMagvgJZ4 OW6EzCwXk/QKgjtcu+7hHhrmfiy1nOd8i+sGjR5LT9Yb70S342UsheNL4gVsjtC18nwNdpIa4 Fs1VOujy3R53vHrJl2zesnexfnAhLSYL7Buf8c1ZZdcGSbiYmO7wM4ktfBmVK9NzDVbSq/5LD +1Ste1OLkkBw2Cl2sj3xXxstUtL7fz/3wcurezy6wb0K1ZMmoyUblVrXKjtSXmNTtPys5F49v pFz/B6U827EeEgiJ4eMCkUnXVQL5Lgp+1ll1DdZ+bcuPKgUW0Io+1JnvjnLxcG+w0kDhiSlhh lwxvQuIIkCjTCANKVZ33YVc7niPJ7WzwgnF3kvt3yqM6VTQQIgMsFZoA7SBQj5Ue7jzr4jytp EvB4yF/ahMClrC3QhaGhkRWcOc0MdHgQSGUVqlS+oMqUbha1q9XJjUeyoNYwiR1+lex5ColLS 6YfYnG/o0aByRNSwETvZ+FD/6guThvxAyNR7MCPho3k4Unsbu3LYSVgvRSOYe2GdljJCTqYv5 vQHbAxlM7NJFiP5q69tW/LX8Cxg4l4VmKOKUB7hXCazwbhgSEKet8gi3LvvDx4cqUU0gZ3BDW nWhwK2UGff6rtXEZH+8mZj24j5md8DPueICzX9Pz+9Tx6Zx8lIPxfBzoOktJURHUQmVbZnLFs y1mGyngOw/R8C4MXU1d6MlGyS4JQxU95ieSg/UbtwhFEfREOUoJVPaxYXhoMNJmYVahQRa066 IM0usKIQlmm29tZlY64vyQJB8Cyn+VcXEsU1sN+TekJ7X3gd8Y7/XfZ8LPr013B5pU7cFV3aZ BqSb22TxEjXHaZdf+q6I9mLKzvofDkxLVt+OZ1DOXtCb5gM22ekpcuPvPKkosvW62pDWG2Jl7 txGlwaPQsZFx5P8y3ogw== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.12; envelope-from=arne_bab@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.32 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=bmru3PoA; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=web.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B473E94042B X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: f9Zq1HeLeMNq --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carlo Zancanaro writes: > One may argue that the system is functioning correctly, and this is an > unfortunate consequence of the way that Guix works. I would still > consider the faulty behaviour a bug - even if it is a result of > intentional decisions made in Guix's design. Running evince (i.e. > /usr/bin/evince) is failing because of an environment variable that > Guix's wrapper sets for emacs. That environment variable is propagated > to child processes (as environment variables are), and in this > instance that causes the child process to misbehave. This is a bug > caused by Guix's wrapping of emacs. In practical terms: You would expect Guix to rename the environment variable and also patch all guix-installed programs so that they use the renamed variable without affecting any non-Guix-Program? 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