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From: Sam Halliday <sam.halliday@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: some questions about GUIX
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:40:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vb7h1cwh.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8ot47wr.fsf@gnu.org>

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Thanks Ludovic,


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Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>> * Integration with existing software distribution managers
>>
>> How are you planning on handling these more modern languages that
>> manage their own dependencies?
>
> Currently, we import those languages’ dependency trees into the Guix
> dependency tree, and so some additional QA (make sure tests pass,
> provide adequate licensing info, descriptions and synopses, etc.)

OK, I'm not entirely sure what that means for JVM / Maven Central
applications but it sounds like you're doing something sane.

The important thing for JVM applications is that each jar doesn't end up
getting tracked as a separate entity, because that just makes it
infeasible and painful to package anything through the official
channels.

The main problem I want to avoid is the situation where it can take
longer to package a small application than it does to write it.


>> * Docker image
>
> I don’t think there’ll be an “official” presence there, but everyone is
> welcome to do it.

OK, I'll watch out for one appearing.


> Guix’s build daemon uses containers to perform isolated builds:
>
>   http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Features.html

Interesting. I wonder if you wouldn't benefit from a docker / drone
network, just as a distribution mechanism for your own build farm. It
would be a shame to expend effort on that since it is somewhat something
of a solved problem (and purely a DevOps matter, not a user concern).


>> * Issue tracker / comm channels
>>
>> Will you be continuing to use debbugs, savannah and mailing lists going
>> forward or would you consider moving to a modern community management
>> system like gitlab?
>
> I hear the appeal of GitLab and the like.  However, as was recently
> discussed on guix-devel, while I think we must find ways to improve our
> workflows (for instance, tracking patches is becoming tricky), I don’t
> see us moving to one of those web-based approaches for several reasons:
>
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2015-12/msg00429.html

I've never used GitLab, but I understand that it is free software. The
thread above seems to suggest that it is proprietary.


Perhaps a challenge as large as GUIX itself, but I'd love to see
something from GNU to genuinely compete with GitHub on a technical level
and gitlab seems like the closest thing available in the free software
world.


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Best regards,
Sam

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-29 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-26 15:36 some questions about GUIX Sam Halliday
2015-12-29 15:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-29 15:40   ` Sam Halliday [this message]
2015-12-29 19:11     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-12-29 19:46       ` Leo Famulari
2015-12-29 23:10       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-29 23:35       ` Sam Halliday
2015-12-31  9:50         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-12-30 13:36       ` Sam Halliday
2015-12-31  2:02         ` Leo Famulari
2015-12-31  2:17           ` Leo Famulari
2015-12-31 12:46           ` Sam Halliday
2016-01-01 14:45             ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-31  9:30         ` Ricardo Wurmus

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