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* Choosing Hardware: cpu, motherboard
@ 2019-01-03 11:40 znavko
  2019-01-03 16:48 ` Ricardo Wurmus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: znavko @ 2019-01-03 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Help Guix

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Hello, hackers! 
I am choosing my new desktop computer configuration using catalogue of free hardware  https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en <https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en> . There  are not cpus and motherboards.
I am not sure Ryzen 7 is what I need, cause I do not know how to choose top cpu without vulnerabilities.

I've noted that Minifree X200 goes with Intel SL 9400 https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200-tablet/ <https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200-tablet/>   , but excuse me 1.8GHz is too slow even for booting GuixSD.
Also, I've found TaurinusX200 https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200 <https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200> but there is not specified cpu, only Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26-2.66 GHz (?).
I've found Talos II Lite here  https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL1BC1/purchase.html <https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL1BC1/purchase.html> but I think GuixSD has no IBM Power9 support.

I'll try to flash motherboard with Libreboot or Coreboot, so I need compatible motherboard. Here are some cpu boards https://www.xes-inc.com/product-category/processor-boards/ <https://www.xes-inc.com/product-category/processor-boards/>  but I think that is not my variant.

Would you be so kind to advise secure cpu with 3GHz or higher frequency and coreboot/libreboot compatible motherboard  for desktop pc?

Hope, you have a time for this!

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* Re: Choosing Hardware: cpu, motherboard
  2019-01-03 11:40 Choosing Hardware: cpu, motherboard znavko
@ 2019-01-03 16:48 ` Ricardo Wurmus
  2019-01-04 11:57   ` Joshua Branson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2019-01-03 16:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: znavko; +Cc: Help Guix


znavko@tutanota.com writes:

> I am choosing my new desktop computer configuration using catalogue of
> free hardware https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en
> <https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en> . There are not cpus and
> motherboards.  I am not sure Ryzen 7 is what I need, cause I do not
> know how to choose top cpu without vulnerabilities.
>
> I've noted that Minifree X200 goes with Intel SL 9400
> https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200-tablet/
> <https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200-tablet/> , but excuse me
> 1.8GHz is too slow even for booting GuixSD.

Not sure if you’re serious, but here goes: I’m using Guix on a netbook
with 1GHz Atom CPU, and booting is certainly fast enough.

> Also, I've found TaurinusX200
> https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200
> <https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200> but there is not
> specified cpu, only Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26-2.66 GHz (?).

I also had a Core 2 Duo before (in an X200S).  Works fine too.

> I've found Talos II Lite here
> https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL1BC1/purchase.html
> <https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL1BC1/purchase.html> but I think
> GuixSD has no IBM Power9 support.

We don’t have any Power 9 developer machines, so we can’t port it (and
test the port).

> I'll try to flash motherboard with Libreboot or Coreboot, so I need
> compatible motherboard. Here are some cpu boards
> https://www.xes-inc.com/product-category/processor-boards/
> <https://www.xes-inc.com/product-category/processor-boards/> but I
> think that is not my variant.

You may want to check on the Coreboot wiki for a list of compatible
devices.

--
Ricardo

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* Re: Choosing Hardware: cpu, motherboard
  2019-01-03 16:48 ` Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2019-01-04 11:57   ` Joshua Branson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Joshua Branson @ 2019-01-04 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-guix

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:

> znavko@tutanota.com writes:
>
>> I am choosing my new desktop computer configuration using catalogue of
>> free hardware https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en
>> <https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en> . There are not cpus and
>> motherboards.  I am not sure Ryzen 7 is what I need, cause I do not
>> know how to choose top cpu without vulnerabilities.
>>
>> I've noted that Minifree X200 goes with Intel SL 9400
>> https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200-tablet/
>> <https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200-tablet/> , but excuse me
>> 1.8GHz is too slow even for booting GuixSD.
>
> Not sure if you’re serious, but here goes: I’m using Guix on a netbook
> with 1GHz Atom CPU, and booting is certainly fast enough.

I'm considering switching to a "free-d" laptop, but I'm still not
certain if 1GHz is fast enough.  Maybe I just need to get over it and
try it out.

Also there is a new DIY laptop that'll be available soon on crowd
supply:

https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/reform

I personally, don't like the mouse ball, and the ARM CPU is only 1.2
GHz, but it's got 4GB of RAM.  That'd be enough for me.

>
>> Also, I've found TaurinusX200
>> https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200
>> <https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200> but there is not
>> specified cpu, only Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26-2.66 GHz (?).

I've got a core 2 Duo in my Macbook, and it works swell.  Maybe that's
the laptop that I should go with!

>
> I also had a Core 2 Duo before (in an X200S).  Works fine too.
>
>> I've found Talos II Lite here
>> https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL1BC1/purchase.html
>> <https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL1BC1/purchase.html> but I think
>> GuixSD has no IBM Power9 support.
>
> We don’t have any Power 9 developer machines, so we can’t port it (and
> test the port).
>
>> I'll try to flash motherboard with Libreboot or Coreboot, so I need
>> compatible motherboard. Here are some cpu boards
>> https://www.xes-inc.com/product-category/processor-boards/
>> <https://www.xes-inc.com/product-category/processor-boards/> but I
>> think that is not my variant.
>
> You may want to check on the Coreboot wiki for a list of compatible
> devices.
>
> --
> Ricardo
>

--
Joshua Branson
Sent from Emacs and Gnus

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