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[66.158.152.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b14-20020a05620a126e00b006a098381abcsm2178643qkl.114.2022.05.21.19.47.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 21 May 2022 19:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Benjamin Slade Cc: Akib Azmain Turja , zimoun , raingloom , help-guix@gnu.org Subject: Re: Why Emacs is echoing message for each installed Emacs package while startup References: <874k1qejtg.fsf@disroot.org> <20220516015831.577e652f@riseup.net> <87sfp9dh9m.fsf@disroot.org> <86fsl9sq5c.fsf@gmail.com> <8735h9cuck.fsf@disroot.org> <86h75pjj2c.fsf@gmail.com> <87v8u4bnc5.fsf@disroot.org> <86h75nkei6.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6beby96.fsf@disroot.org> <86ee0qd03d.fsf@gmail.com> <87h75j6rlx.fsf@disroot.org> <878rqubnj5.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmk6sfwv.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 22:47:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pmk6sfwv.fsf@gmail.com> (Benjamin Slade's message of "Sat, 21 May 2022 16:00:36 -0600") Message-ID: <87v8ty8eru.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2c; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf2c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1653187679; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=DuxIv2iYyUI3zrBbh57iD+KLqBaebnljQ2FOXTiXnzQ=; b=TjGTQwuwtP60t4ZjgwfJU17l4mAA1hgXUsEwAR94+m5sUMO5wT9uDA/Lc2zL34PDAf8Z/c wSVb1/2Hjg5VuM7n7aoZf/LMXtNm/U66pyKnCJ8rf7SxkogIWZSNylFZMi/5CnF9mRkoAl pDhouUTXjro4y2rg7ZMke3GMggHxl2HjmXHlJI0ZHKQUSnpcFMFkgFdUkzOUrYszu8zHPZ P3xJcqP3ctR+shMlJ//0O0XYYv4UUyTI/5qnZrUIaLbbTq3OCqCuVfulerXSo+Zdtqlj6Y qdccsnW4VMgTu/L+0oeh0B9x1WY2kAJchQi4l12d2F0VBERsobwh1ykG7Tv87w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1653187679; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=IbVJVrhJjFubgsy9O9xFT9GsU2q+SJ2XQN9IqRFNqfxbS1VPfvFUUzNW1m5JbYWwIhjmWd uDO6xx2b1FqLBZYN5+BJiIIP3vtUw0jqpA7Z6rQe271dCoaqViPqu5fM9zwrIbUm+euUeT iRhFK91ddB/vZO62Y3f+A38gEReRW6yXmgPgTRmVWpH5KXnj+Qc5vEp64zR20ZEbu1tQb0 ehvGz9nVSqKiAIjXHefgEGJuujoU0KvUcRtD/Bsz26dTu/FE1shyGX+mp48O42FUCe85Ft FwiiL4h19fEO0XU8jFWsTm46yX1ga2Sbg/AR7QtDNrUwfFLus+D5Ra40YyuETA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=j58wsTo6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.35 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=j58wsTo6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 88DFF109FD X-Spam-Score: -8.35 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7A+3HMYQEhq1 Hi, [...] >> > But, why is the message is shown? Can someone remove it? It would >> > probably be better that I myself clone the repo, fix it and send the >> > patch, but my hard disk space isn't allowing me to do that. Is it >> > possible disable that message by modifing any Guix configuration file? > >> Like Simon, I do not see why the autoloads-related messages are a >> problem; they only occur when starting Emacs from scratch. If you have >> so many packages that the loading time or loading messages bothers you, >> you may want to consider running Emacs as a server and connecting to it >> via emacsclient; that way you load it once when you login to your >> session for example and that's it. > >> For what it's worth, the messages are not printed by that custom Guix >> Elisp code explicitly but by the Emacs function `load', on line 59 of >> guix-emacs.el: (load f 'noerror). If it really bothers you could change >> it to: > >> (load f 'noerror 'nomessage) > >> Hope that helps, > >> Maxim > > > The messages also appear when viewing the *Async-native-compile-log* when Emacs is native compiling packages. And the all of the "loading packages" messages are repeated before /each/ package that is compiled. That's not with the Emacs in Guix I guess, since we do not yet have native compilation enabled. But it seems like the problem here is not the printing of the messages, but why when natively compiling packages it would cause all the packages to be reloaded for each package... which is crazy. Maxim