From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id GwnaEBc8U183ZgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:19:51 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id GLYWDBc8U1+3ZgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:19:51 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F267E9402CB for ; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kESUG-0004hT-C9 for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 03:19:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kESU8-0004h1-La for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 03:19:40 -0400 Received: from sender4-of-o51.zoho.com ([136.143.188.51]:21199) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kESU6-0000ki-JP for help-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 03:19:40 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1599290376; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=lDOKyc6tSvx4FVsCNJtl5Cv7f4zPJEq02xyugBjlWIRrVqPS2qMPcan95J5zNz1QlGOJtyWKs4bkBIonjF7Rhh+ZkZ5klgIyj9cxEPN2YSPedC4JCbVCFzj43DmuDEsTPYBTj7a3FuDs8pGfbvUItRRtM+HbpCNwEaW0Yxnidyk= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1599290376; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=nizLUfW5YbdLJsWhbxPQ48eyEU//TL2hUSVhVUW3kvA=; b=FEwEb6XPsr1riDOiXY3t40Cc4invNv5cgxSUJjTceTOlfjXeMWgCngu5bCPpHourtqBW/uI2h1FmvffjCZ0fD+W7mYNlu+fVzqgizDlOeO3BY80SCRbQtLWYsdJI+sd7hl3BZMzk0Pyrl7z+7oKL34mYpZ0O9Stxh95OkQcHDe0= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1599290376; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=nizLUfW5YbdLJsWhbxPQ48eyEU//TL2hUSVhVUW3kvA=; b=FB6EINgU3mjpYLZQtmQCn6r1yPh2FPg2hwnqLdWC5lLnsP+4kF85X/e9dPQn6Wbr rC5GxZXIJB+jkO/7nOsLTn6q5qgVMMVrDt2QlZm9ZH6yxysuscPqRe4dacqwwIn2Yoi A/Bg13C30ro1jpm5WuMdq/cRDNPPhls/htxbtcBA= Received: from localhost (p54ad4240.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.66.64]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1599290372649832.7712735841336; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 00:19:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <87v9hn2rlf.fsf@elephly.net> <87bljfxbgn.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <875z9mvrpb.fsf@yamatai> <877dt9fqh6.fsf@elephly.net> <87wo18zp61.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: Problems with McCLIM (Common Lisp) In-reply-to: <87wo18zp61.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgbwelkl.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.188.51; envelope-from=rekado@elephly.net; helo=sender4-of-o51.zoho.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/05 03:19:36 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=FB6EINgU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.99 X-TUID: Gi69b3T9jcAX Pierre Neidhardt writes: >> I=E2=80=99d like to play with McClim and all its applications to see if = it would >> be worth doing something like this for Guile :) > > Maybe. Have you considered using GObject Introspection to build > full-fledged GTK apps in Guile? I've heard of 2 Guile libraries for GI: > guile-gi and g-golf. That=E2=80=99s not the same. I really do want the Lisp Machine experience,= not just GTK apps. --=20 Ricardo