The same thing happens in Icecat as it does in nonguix's Firefox. (I mention the firefox thing to indicate that I *don't* think it's icecat-specific code). I've had this happen on my computer and have found it weird/disturbing for a while, but recently I found it's also happening on my spouse's computer, but only once she switched to Guix also. Wondering what's going on. (Maybe this should be filed as a bug, not sure.) Here's roughly the scenario: - Have icecat/firefox open and browsing websites. - Oops, something happens to the network. Maybe the wifi router goes out briefly or something. - You're back! You can ssh into servers again and connect to irc, and even ungoogled-chromium seems fine to browse websites. - But weirdly... you have to restart icecat/firefox for things to work right again. But weirdly... this isn't the case on my spouse's Debian install, etc. And I also only started experiencing it when I started running Guix. No particularly unusual extensions, just ublock origin, https everywhere, tree style tabs. I've turned off proxy settings in firefox to be sure. No change afaict. It's so strange. It's easy enough to fix but I'm disturbed that it's happening at all. It's as if there was some sneaky connection that firefox was making and which got broken until I restarted the browser. Or maybe it's just some massive caching bug that acts similarly. Disturbing. Anyone else experience the same? I tried describing this and it sounded like I was the only one having the issue a couple of years ago. Now that I'm not my only household member experiencing the same, I suspect we are probably not alone...? - Chris
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 524 bytes --] Hi Chris, Unsure if it's related, but I can reproduce this recipe on my Guix System with the Nyxt browser. - Enable Tor service. - Start Nyxt. - Enable proxy-mode over Tor. - Go to https://check.torproject.org/ to confirm it's working. - Put system to sleep for a while. - Wake up the the system and browse something from _an existing buffer_: most of the time it fails to load. Restarting the Tor service and/or opening a new buffer fixes it. Any idea? -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 511 bytes --]
Pierre Neidhardt writes:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Unsure if it's related, but I can reproduce this recipe on my Guix
> System with the Nyxt browser.
>
> - Enable Tor service.
> - Start Nyxt.
> - Enable proxy-mode over Tor.
> - Go to https://check.torproject.org/ to confirm it's working.
> - Put system to sleep for a while.
> - Wake up the the system and browse something from _an existing buffer_:
> most of the time it fails to load.
>
> Restarting the Tor service and/or opening a new buffer fixes it.
>
> Any idea?
Curious, except that afaict I shouldn't be running a proxy here, and
afaik neither is my spouse, who didn't experience this behavior until
the Guix switchover either (and isn't running the tor service atm).
I did wonder if this was proxy-like failure behavior though.
Hey Chris, I can't reproduce the behavior you describe. I'm using guix 08d8c2d linux-libre 5.9.12-gnu IceCat 78.5.0esr (64-bit) I did the following twice: ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, December 14, 2020 9:00 PM, Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote: [...] > Here's roughly the scenario: > > - Have icecat/firefox open and browsing websites. > - Oops, something happens to the network. Maybe the wifi router goes > out briefly or something. I unplugged the UTP cable from my computer and made sure I had no access to anything from IceCat. > - You're back! You can ssh into servers again and connect to irc, and > even ungoogled-chromium seems fine to browse websites. > I plugged the cable back in. > - But weirdly... you have to restart icecat/firefox for things to work > right again. I tried browsing the Web using IceCat again, and it worked normally. > Anyone else experience the same? I tried describing this and it sounded > like I was the only one having the issue a couple of years ago. Now > that I'm not my only household member experiencing the same, I suspect > we are probably not alone...? I'm not sure I've experienced the same, but I'm sure I usually had to restart my desktop session whenever the Internet went out before. This hasn't been the case in months, though.
Thanks for testing. Maybe I should open up wireshark and do some
sniffing around.
Luis Felipe writes:
> Hey Chris,
>
> I can't reproduce the behavior you describe. I'm using
>
> guix 08d8c2d
> linux-libre 5.9.12-gnu
> IceCat 78.5.0esr (64-bit)
>
>
> I did the following twice:
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 9:00 PM, Christopher Lemmer Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Here's roughly the scenario:
>>
>> - Have icecat/firefox open and browsing websites.
>> - Oops, something happens to the network. Maybe the wifi router goes
>> out briefly or something.
>
>
> I unplugged the UTP cable from my computer and made sure I had no access to anything from IceCat.
>
>
>> - You're back! You can ssh into servers again and connect to irc, and
>> even ungoogled-chromium seems fine to browse websites.
>>
>
>
> I plugged the cable back in.
>
>
>> - But weirdly... you have to restart icecat/firefox for things to work
>> right again.
>
>
> I tried browsing the Web using IceCat again, and it worked normally.
>
>
>> Anyone else experience the same? I tried describing this and it sounded
>> like I was the only one having the issue a couple of years ago. Now
>> that I'm not my only household member experiencing the same, I suspect
>> we are probably not alone...?
>
>
> I'm not sure I've experienced the same, but I'm sure I usually had to restart my desktop session whenever the Internet went out before. This hasn't been the case in months, though.
Hey Chris, I used to have that Icecat issue. I had to restart icecat whenever I lost the internet connection. I do not believe that I have had that issue in a while. I just turned off my wifi and turned it back on and icecat worked just fine. P.S. Whoever has been maintaining Icecat, great job! I used to have all sorts of weird stability issues, but not so much anymore. Thanks! -- Joshua Branson Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels https://propernaming.org "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar