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References: <167950510545.8638.5143588589556085001@localhost> <125A2318-8CD2-4446-AA1E-938323417CB4@lepiller.eu> <167955626537.2439.10778558862410854160@localhost> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 14:03:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <167955626537.2439.10778558862410854160@localhost> (Tanguy LE CARROUR's message of "Thu, 23 Mar 2023 08:24:25 +0100") Message-ID: <87sfduxc0i.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1136; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-yw1-x1136.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 12A2D2C892 X-Spam-Score: -4.77 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.77 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-TUID: fcABvkOzuCA4 Hi, Tanguy LE CARROUR writes: > Hi Julien, > > Thanks for your reply! > > Quoting Julien Lepiller (2023-03-22 18:24:37) >> Most likely, you're just seeing a weird behavior caused by grafts. [=E2= =80=A6] >> When you reconfigure, guix needs to download the ungrafted package >> before it figures out it already has the graft. > > Oh=E2=80=A6 Oh=E2=80=A6 grafts! =F0=9F=A4=AF > > >> Since they have the same name and version, I think you're just >> cwnfusing the two :) > > "Confused" is the appropriate word, indeed! =F0=9F=98=85 > > The thing is, I've been (for the last few months! =F0=9F=98=B1) in the pr= ocess of > writing home services definitions to replace **all** my configuration fil= es, > so I run **a lot** of `guix home reconfigure`. The command usually takes = 30 > seconds to run, but right after I `guix gc` it takes 10 minutes. So I > guess I should stop collecting garbage for the time being, which is most > inconvenient for it saves more than 4Go of disk space. I think we should do something on Guix's side too; it'd be more intuitive and save resource/time if the things needed by grafts were always available, i.e. prevented from being garbage collected. --=20 Thanks, Maxim