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* NAS drive
@ 2020-12-07 17:05 Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-08 10:06 ` Pierre Neidhardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-07 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-guix

Hi,

I have a NAS drive which I would like to connect to in my house. I have
done this many times from other Linux systems. However today I struggled
with guix.

I have installed nfs-utils. That allows me to use the mount command:

sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.17:/Multimedia /mnt/nas

However, when I do this I get a bad command with the response that I would
need a file for nfs with some extra detail.

I am wondering whether I am running into a permissions issue. Obviously
when I install nfs-utils I am running this as myself rather than the
system.

?

Cheers
Roy.

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-07 17:05 NAS drive Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-08 10:06 ` Pierre Neidhardt
  2020-12-08 12:03   ` Roy Lemmon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-12-08 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon, help-guix

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Hi Roy!

sorry, I know nothing about NASes.

That said, can you provide more details, e.g. the exact response that
you get.

> I am wondering whether I am running into a permissions issue. Obviously
> when I install nfs-utils I am running this as myself rather than the
> system.

In my understanding, mounting tools are setuid programs and as such
should be installed as part of your Guix System, not as user.  (To be confirmed.)

Hope that helps!

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 10:06 ` Pierre Neidhardt
@ 2020-12-08 12:03   ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-08 12:28     ` Pierre Neidhardt
  2020-12-08 15:01     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-08 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pierre Neidhardt; +Cc: help-guix

Hi Pierre,

Sure. The exact response is:

rlemmon@parton ~$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.17:/Multimedia/Music/Classical
/mnt/nas
Password:
mount: /mnt/nas: bad option; for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you
might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program.
rlemmon@parton ~$

I wondered, after looking in the manual, whether this is a setuid program
issue and so part of the Guix System. So I tried to set this in the .scm
file as a service. However i didn't set any values as i was not sure what
to put ...

Cheers
Roy.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:07 AM Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> wrote:

> Hi Roy!
>
> sorry, I know nothing about NASes.
>
> That said, can you provide more details, e.g. the exact response that
> you get.
>
> > I am wondering whether I am running into a permissions issue. Obviously
> > when I install nfs-utils I am running this as myself rather than the
> > system.
>
> In my understanding, mounting tools are setuid programs and as such
> should be installed as part of your Guix System, not as user.  (To be
> confirmed.)
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> --
> Pierre Neidhardt
> https://ambrevar.xyz/
>


-- 
********************************
Roy Lemmon
STFC Daresbury Laboratory
United Kingdom
********************************

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 12:03   ` Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-08 12:28     ` Pierre Neidhardt
  2020-12-08 15:01     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Pierre Neidhardt @ 2020-12-08 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon; +Cc: help-guix

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Roy Lemmon <roy@roylemmon.com> writes:

> rlemmon@parton ~$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.17:/Multimedia/Music/Classical
> /mnt/nas
> Password:
> mount: /mnt/nas: bad option; for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you
> might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program.

Indeed, `mount' needs mount.nfs, which is only found (I think) in
/run/setuid-programs/mount.nfs.

Try install nfs-utils as part of your system packages.

Cheers!

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 12:03   ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-08 12:28     ` Pierre Neidhardt
@ 2020-12-08 15:01     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  2020-12-08 15:19       ` Roy Lemmon
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2020-12-08 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon; +Cc: Pierre Neidhardt, help-guix

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Roy,

Roy Lemmon 写道:
> I wondered, after looking in the manual, whether this is a 
> setuid program
> issue and so part of the Guix System. So I tried to set this in 
> the .scm
> file as a service. However i didn't set any values as i was not 
> sure what
> to put ...

Try:

  (setuid-programs
    (cons*
      (file-append nfs-utils "/sbin/mount.nfs") ; or nfs4
      %setuid-programs))

Kind regards,

T G-R

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 15:01     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
@ 2020-12-08 15:19       ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-08 15:30         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-08 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: help-guix

Hi Tobias,

Thanks for your email. Where
 in the .scm file do those lines go ? In the:

(services
 (append
  (list

section ?

Thanks
Roy.

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 15:01 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Roy,
>
> Roy Lemmon 写道:
> > I wondered, after looking in the manual, whether this is a
> > setuid program
> > issue and so part of the Guix System. So I tried to set this in
> > the .scm
> > file as a service. However i didn't set any values as i was not
> > sure what
> > to put ...
>
> Try:
>
>   (setuid-programs
>     (cons*
>       (file-append nfs-utils "/sbin/mount.nfs") ; or nfs4
>       %setuid-programs))
>
> Kind regards,
>
> T G-R
>

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 15:19       ` Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-08 15:30         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  2020-12-08 17:42           ` Roy Lemmon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2020-12-08 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon; +Cc: Pierre Neidhardt, help-guix

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Roy Lemmon 写道:
> Thanks for your email. Where
>  in the .scm file do those lines go ? In the:
>
> (services
>  (append
>   (list
>
> section ?

No, on the same (top) level of your operating-system record.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 15:30         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
@ 2020-12-08 17:42           ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-08 18:46             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-08 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: help-guix

Sorry but it's been a long day ...

I have to specify the nfs package don't I ? So is that done in use-modules
or use-service-models, e.g.

(use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)

or

use-modules (gnu))
(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail nfs)





On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:30 PM Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Roy Lemmon 写道:
> > Thanks for your email. Where
> >  in the .scm file do those lines go ? In the:
> >
> > (services
> >  (append
> >   (list
> >
> > section ?
>
> No, on the same (top) level of your operating-system record.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> T G-R
>


-- 
********************************
Roy Lemmon
STFC Daresbury Laboratory
United Kingdom
********************************

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 17:42           ` Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-08 18:46             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  2020-12-08 18:58               ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-09 12:44               ` Roy Lemmon
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2020-12-08 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon; +Cc: Pierre Neidhardt, help-guix

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Roy Lemmon 写道:
> Sorry but it's been a long day ...

Here too :-)

> I have to specify the nfs package don't I ?

The ‘NFS package’ in

  (file-append nfs-utils "/sbin/mount.nfs")

is nfs-utils, which is a variable defined in the (gnu packages 
nfs) Guile module.

As you note, modules need to be imported first, which is what

> (use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
> (use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)

does.  This is the correct variant for your use case: you care 
only about the package which provides mount.nfs to clients, not 
about the server which is what (gnu services nfs) provides.

Aside: the above snippet is completely equivalent to both:

  (use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
  (use-modules (gnu services desktop)
               (gnu services networking)
               (gnu services ssh)
               (gnu services xorg)
               (gnu services mail))

and

  (use-package-modules nfs)
  (use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)

USE-{PACKAGE,SERVICE}-MODULES is Guix-specific syntactic sugar 
that saves a lot of space and typing when you're importing many 
package & service modules, as most people do.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 18:46             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
@ 2020-12-08 18:58               ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-09 12:44               ` Roy Lemmon
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-08 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: help-guix

Hi,

Thanks for the explanation. It makes a lot of sense to me. I will try this
later tonight.

Cheers
Roy.

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 18:46 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Roy Lemmon 写道:
> > Sorry but it's been a long day ...
>
> Here too :-)
>
> > I have to specify the nfs package don't I ?
>
> The ‘NFS package’ in
>
>   (file-append nfs-utils "/sbin/mount.nfs")
>
> is nfs-utils, which is a variable defined in the (gnu packages
> nfs) Guile module.
>
> As you note, modules need to be imported first, which is what
>
> > (use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
> > (use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)
>
> does.  This is the correct variant for your use case: you care
> only about the package which provides mount.nfs to clients, not
> about the server which is what (gnu services nfs) provides.
>
> Aside: the above snippet is completely equivalent to both:
>
>   (use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
>   (use-modules (gnu services desktop)
>                (gnu services networking)
>                (gnu services ssh)
>                (gnu services xorg)
>                (gnu services mail))
>
> and
>
>   (use-package-modules nfs)
>   (use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)
>
> USE-{PACKAGE,SERVICE}-MODULES is Guix-specific syntactic sugar
> that saves a lot of space and typing when you're importing many
> package & service modules, as most people do.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> T G-R
>

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-08 18:46             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  2020-12-08 18:58               ` Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-09 12:44               ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-09 21:12                 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-09 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: help-guix

Hi,

So I'm afraid it still doesn't work. Though with the following there are at
least no errors.

Here is the top section of the .scm file.

Cheers
Roy


config.scm
***********************

(use-modules (gnu))
(use-package-modules nfs emacs-xyz)
(use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail docker)

(operating-system

  (setuid-programs
   (cons*
    (file-append nfs-utils "/sbin/mount.nfs")
    %setuid-programs))

 (locale "en_GB.utf8")
 (host-name "parton")
 (timezone "Europe/London")

 (keyboard-layout (keyboard-layout "gb" "extd"))

  (bootloader
    (bootloader-configuration
      (bootloader grub-efi-bootloader)
      (target "/boot/efi")
      (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))

.... cont.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:46 PM Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Roy Lemmon 写道:
> > Sorry but it's been a long day ...
>
> Here too :-)
>
> > I have to specify the nfs package don't I ?
>
> The ‘NFS package’ in
>
>   (file-append nfs-utils "/sbin/mount.nfs")
>
> is nfs-utils, which is a variable defined in the (gnu packages
> nfs) Guile module.
>
> As you note, modules need to be imported first, which is what
>
> > (use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
> > (use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)
>
> does.  This is the correct variant for your use case: you care
> only about the package which provides mount.nfs to clients, not
> about the server which is what (gnu services nfs) provides.
>
> Aside: the above snippet is completely equivalent to both:
>
>   (use-modules (gnu packages nfs))
>   (use-modules (gnu services desktop)
>                (gnu services networking)
>                (gnu services ssh)
>                (gnu services xorg)
>                (gnu services mail))
>
> and
>
>   (use-package-modules nfs)
>   (use-service-modules desktop networking ssh xorg mail)
>
> USE-{PACKAGE,SERVICE}-MODULES is Guix-specific syntactic sugar
> that saves a lot of space and typing when you're importing many
> package & service modules, as most people do.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> T G-R
>


-- 
********************************
Roy Lemmon
STFC Daresbury Laboratory
United Kingdom
********************************

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-09 12:44               ` Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-09 21:12                 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
  2020-12-10  8:50                   ` Roy Lemmon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2020-12-09 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon; +Cc: Pierre Neidhardt, help-guix


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Roy,

Roy Lemmon 写道:
> So I'm afraid it still doesn't work.

That's unfortunate :-(

> Here is the top section of the .scm file.

I'm recompiling my kernel with NFS support to test you command for 
myself.

I wonder if it's because we configure util-linux with:

  "--enable-fs-paths-default=/run/current-system/profile/sbin"

If so the attached patch might help, but it's merely a total 
guess.

Kind regards,

T G-R


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From 7d481e79076d8feb9e69fe0ca3a9eb1b3bb26573 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 22:03:47 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] gnu: util-linux: Support setuid mount helpers on Guix System.

* gnu/packages/linux.scm (util-linux)[argument]: Add /run/setuid-programs
to --enable-fs-paths-default.
---
 gnu/packages/linux.scm | 4 +++-
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/gnu/packages/linux.scm b/gnu/packages/linux.scm
index 3d36468172..03a1bcbf71 100644
--- a/gnu/packages/linux.scm
+++ b/gnu/packages/linux.scm
@@ -1513,7 +1513,9 @@ providing the system administrator with some help in common tasks.")
                "static"))       ;2.9 MiB static .a libraries
     (arguments
      `(#:configure-flags (list "--disable-use-tty-group"
-                               "--enable-fs-paths-default=/run/current-system/profile/sbin"
+                               (string-append "--enable-fs-paths-default="
+                                              "/run/setuid-programs:"
+                                              "/run/current-system/profile/sbin")
                                ;; Don't try to chown root:root mount and umount
                                "--disable-makeinstall-chown"
                                "--localstatedir=/var"
-- 
2.29.2


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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-09 21:12                 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
@ 2020-12-10  8:50                   ` Roy Lemmon
  2020-12-10 16:16                     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-10  8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: help-guix

Hi

Thanks for recompiling your kernel with NFS support and for the patch. I
will try it but with not much hope ... !

I'll wait for your reply.

Cheers
Roy.



On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, 21:12 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Roy,
>
> Roy Lemmon 写道:
> > So I'm afraid it still doesn't work.
>
> That's unfortunate :-(
>
> > Here is the top section of the .scm file.
>
> I'm recompiling my kernel with NFS support to test you command for
> myself.
>
> I wonder if it's because we configure util-linux with:
>
>   "--enable-fs-paths-default=/run/current-system/profile/sbin"
>
> If so the attached patch might help, but it's merely a total
> guess.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> T G-R
>
>

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-10  8:50                   ` Roy Lemmon
@ 2020-12-10 16:16                     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via
  2020-12-10 16:56                       ` Roy Lemmon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via @ 2020-12-10 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roy Lemmon; +Cc: help-guix

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Hullo!

Had a spare minute to try my new shiny kernel, now sporting the 
cream of 1980s file sharing:

  ~ λ grep ^CONFIG_NFS /run/current-system/kernel/.config 
  CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
  CONFIG_NFS_V3=m
  CONFIG_NFS_FSCACHE=y
  CONFIG_NFS_DISABLE_UDP_SUPPORT=y
  CONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y

Much less than Guix's linux-libre package enables by default, but 
it should suffice -- I think?

For now:

  # With ‘mount’ patched to look in /run/setuid-programs:
  ~ λ sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4:/ /mnt
  mount.nfs: Protocol not supported

OK, I'm obviously missing an NFS server to actually test, but 
maybe it works now?

Be sure to pull before testing as I fixed a different bug in 
nfs-utils on master.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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* Re: NAS drive
  2020-12-10 16:16                     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice via
@ 2020-12-10 16:56                       ` Roy Lemmon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Roy Lemmon @ 2020-12-10 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice; +Cc: help-guix

Hi T G-R,

Hmm, 1980s file sharing ... I must ask what you use now sometime ... !

So 'with mount patched' ... How do I take the patch you sent in the
previous email and apply it to the package nfs-utils ? That's stumping me
just now (the manual assumes too much ...). Presumably that would allow
'mount' to look in /run/setuid-programs ...

Certainly I can do guix pull before testing (presumably do before patching
to catch the bug in nfs-utils on master you fixed ?).

Cheers
Roy.

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020, 16:16 Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, <me@tobias.gr> wrote:

> Hullo!
>
> Had a spare minute to try my new shiny kernel, now sporting the
> cream of 1980s file sharing:
>
>   ~ λ grep ^CONFIG_NFS /run/current-system/kernel/.config
>   CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
>   CONFIG_NFS_V3=m
>   CONFIG_NFS_FSCACHE=y
>   CONFIG_NFS_DISABLE_UDP_SUPPORT=y
>   CONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y
>
> Much less than Guix's linux-libre package enables by default, but
> it should suffice -- I think?
>
> For now:
>
>   # With ‘mount’ patched to look in /run/setuid-programs:
>   ~ λ sudo mount -t nfs 1.2.3.4:/ /mnt
>   mount.nfs: Protocol not supported
>
> OK, I'm obviously missing an NFS server to actually test, but
> maybe it works now?
>
> Be sure to pull before testing as I fixed a different bug in
> nfs-utils on master.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> T G-R
>

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