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Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:13:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8fb03073; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:13:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 50bbf47c (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:13:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Joshua Branson To: Yasuaki Kudo Cc: Leo Famulari , Bone Baboon , help-guix@gnu.org Subject: Re: Two more computers unable to start X with GDM References: <4E82389E-CF2A-4E52-B236-06CB748D38CB@yasuaki.com> Mail-Followup-To: Yasuaki Kudo , Leo Famulari , Bone Baboon , help-guix@gnu.org Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:13:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4E82389E-CF2A-4E52-B236-06CB748D38CB@yasuaki.com> (Yasuaki Kudo's message of "Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:06:04 +0900") Message-ID: <87lfa6ngcg.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; 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dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=j7Q0XxLo; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E6BD12575F X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: GhArAl4EDYQ6 Yasuaki Kudo writes: > I read a little bit about the current state of video cards, etc - man > this seems like an uphill battle=F0=9F=98=85 Basically no manufacture > sympathizes with the concept of total transparency. > > I was just thinking what the practical end-game of this might be - do > you think at some point there will be an FPGA+power+various I/O ports > kit that can be totally programmed to provide CPU and video > acceleration? Something like that might be the only way to end this > nonsense=F0=9F=98=85 There is this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/libre-risc-v/m-class/updates They are still working on it, but that website hasn't seen updates in a while. They have another website that they update more often. > > Then the battle will be proprietary vs free software rather than > hardware. But then again, I don't know what kind of nasty patents > there might be... > > -Yasu > >> On Mar 28, 2021, at 03:25, Leo Famulari wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BFOn Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:14:05AM -0400, Bone Baboon wrote: >>> X server worked fine with this NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 GPU when Debian >>> was installed on this computer. It also looks like Debian uses a >>> deblobbed kernal based on this Wikipedia article. >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_blob >>=20 >> The Guix kernel (linux-libre) and the Debian kernel (Linux) have >> different hardware support and, in general, Linux supports more hardware >> than linux-libre. >>=20 --=20 Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels https://propernaming.org "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar =20=20