From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Chris Marusich Subject: Re: Librem Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 23:07:11 -0700 Message-ID: <87k1sd1hww.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87r2p2xudf.fsf@gmail.com> <87po3slnvb.fsf@gmail.com> <87zi1j2myo.fsf@gmail.com> <87vac5utga.fsf@gmail.com> <87po2dqj34.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51291) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGIG0-00053I-GS for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 02:07:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGIFz-0006ko-GT for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 02:07:20 -0400 Received: from mail-pl0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22a]:37401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fGIFz-0006ik-9f for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 02:07:19 -0400 Received: by mail-pl0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id f7-v6so3665727plr.4 for ; Tue, 08 May 2018 23:07:18 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, Joshua Branson --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pierre Neidhardt writes: >> https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/ > > Nice! I was originally referring to laptops only, but since I was > planning to look into desktops soon, so thanks for chiming in! > > It's waaaaaay too expensive for my needs though ;) Would you also happen > to know of libre desktop hardware in the 500-1000=E2=82=AC price range? It's true that the TALOSII costs more than your average consumer-grade desktop. However, I like the fact that they seem to put a strong focus on empowering the desktop owner to control their own computing by freeing as much software as possible. For example, they use OpenBMC, and a lot of the firmware used in the system is apparently available as free software: https://git.raptorcs.com/git/ But it is expensive. :-) I haven't bought one yet, myself. Depending on your needs, I've heard you can put together a pretty good Libreboot desktop system for between 500 and 1000 US dollars, if you order and assemble the parts yourself. For me, "pretty good" means about 16 GiB of RAM, 8 CPU cores, and an SSD, since I'm mainly interested in generic development work (need those cores to build stuff in parallel!). But I haven't tried assembling my own Libreboot desktop yet, either. I would love to hear more from people who have! For a Libreboot-enabled system, you might also consider asking the Libreboot IRC chat room for help (last I heard, their email list was not working). I'm sure they can make some good recommendations! =2D-=20 Chris --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEy/WXVcvn5+/vGD+x3UCaFdgiRp0FAlrykA8ACgkQ3UCaFdgi Rp1hMw//bbnjElAnB21i2HLQ/5PoiyWYhZ1IqlQYIdhXacrc68WSF5c/IOQEHkEt cTVQFqqwbDInserx5ETNV8b+MAktyQicLbVE0EyZ9yD+j07KTSQJ63T2d67C+BY1 zsZOAKc7XNHXBDWOKicM8auDnNrDM0EuG6EXZ4qg1WP/hKRDp5I+rwMTI+cn5bJQ 3w2mYdoNesVlwWMdLICUv03Ebqyu9VIZNwZJuWIRch4RBGmRe7614a3kP7PjYEyA E2WYqEhgs9lCk9lUTG+0VWFTmpwZ2kdMECXAG6z1XRfRu5jD6T7yP7j469ZFfS5s Hu3O8gzBOAhvttQ3nVBAjuJGR/c91ZKneSC/MPklqelHmYg63pj4j5DtNSkSw+HR rythiEH+B81Nw8A7X3tjVd/5Xx6rZFpmC4nPBBQbv18HBesVHL2P6/qwOf5V5HEH byag9iHrNnANkAcgSW3dfROgoeZE/JcN7bdJZQicVl/6w8wvogCaVSwQLNROgIoT L5yD9F1H+01mRk9mSQJdldSlXJYPd0YR2kz6EcE2LRsSzrFtlMFjLMSKf/a9HTuy 7ra4FEMettJp0cU6nsFfx4bBs5UpTDnkOK+LN5uZKZsUiP8AKwjtUoQJxnHH4s+L UgSPBeM+b8PQeA/aLPlNlIjUqncbPf8YQVLkjKkQoGICiUkcz+w= =Htgr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--