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dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=Rs8eUUVr; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8BD753B25D X-Spam-Score: -1.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 1iIS3wgoX7VQ James Smith writes: > So it seems that guix pull should always be followed by guix package -u ? No, I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s correct to say that. You can use yo= ur updated Guix to do a lot of things that are completely unrelated to the state of your default profile. - install things to a different profile - use =E2=80=9Cguix shell=E2=80=9D for an ad-hoc environment - use =E2=80=9Cguix pack=E2=80=9D to build a portable archive - reconfigure your system with your new Guix =E2=80=A6 There are also good reasons why you wouldn=E2=80=99t want to upgrade your default profile every time you upgrade Guix. Software in your default profile may not actually build with the current version of Guix, or you are perfectly happy with the version you have installed, or for reproducibility reason you really want to stay with the current well-known versions and only add a new independent tool=E2=80=A6 There are problems with gradually building up state in a Guix profile by consecutively adding packages installed with a different version of Guix, but this is not a good reason to couple =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80=9D w= ith upgrades of your profile(s). --=20 Ricardo