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Software in your default >> profile may not actually build with the current version of Guix, or you >> are perfectly happy with the version you have installed, or for >> reproducibility reason you really want to stay with the current >> well-known versions and only add a new independent tool=E2=80=A6 > > This sounds rather brittle: you need to keep things in your head. I don=E2=80=99t follow. I don=E2=80=99t see what you=E2=80=99re referring = to as =E2=80=9Cbrittle=E2=80=9D and what you need to keep in your head. > Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be nicer to have manifests support an additional > (optional) field, viz. guix commit corresponding to given package, and > manage your profile using that explicit manifest file? Or aren=E2=80=99t > inferiors suitable for such purpose? You can manage your profile with a manifest; in fact, we recommend that. But it=E2=80=99s not mandatory, and that=E2=80=99s key here. Manife= sts aren=E2=80=99t always the best fit. And yes, you can use inferiors in your manifest to build a profile made of packages from different versions of different channels explicitly. --=20 Ricardo