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dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=G2OckFGD; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C9D963EBD5 X-Spam-Score: -6.95 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: inHue0JnNMNA --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zimoun writes: > Hi, > > On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 22:29, Akib Azmain Turja wrote: > >> The timing maybe wrong, because it is more a year old (and I didn't >> measure). I was new to Emacs Lisp (I used Doom before), and my init.el >> was messy. So maybe the init file had something in it that was >> responsible for slow startup when the packages managed by Guix. > > Well, if you are able to time the two setups: the one using package.el > and =E2=80=99leaf=E2=80=99 and the other one using Guix (and probably rep= lacing the > lines =C2=AB:ensure :package :feather :straight :el-get=C2=BB to use inst= ead the > Emacs packages installed by Guix). > > It could be informing about the potential gap. > > > > Cheers, > simon Yeah. That's really a good idea. But unfortunately my Emacs init time isn't stable after the Emacs 28 upgrade (without native compilation). Sometimes it is as long as 4 seconds and sometimes only a fraction of second. Even if I a calculate an average, that won't be reliable. I have no idea why this is happening now, maybe I'll try investigate it later. I don't have much problem with this random startup time, as I don't restart Emacs much (as the time of writing, emacs-uptime says "5 days, 20 hours, 56 minutes, 26 seconds"). But, why is the message is shown? Can someone remove it? It would probably be better that I myself clone the repo, fix it and send the patch, but my hard disk space isn't allowing me to do that. Is it possible disable that message by modifing any Guix configuration file? =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja This message is signed by me with my GnuPG key. 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